Black Mage - the solution for everything?

[DeadRiser]

No argument there.

It's funny, when someone is shouting for Ifrit parties just for BLM/THM, I go as that. Then enter the content as melee job. Majority of the time, I can out dps the mages. MNK is sooo much fun on Ifrit. I was red most of the time!

They should get rid of the class or limit ONE per party xD hahhaa jk but that's how I feel about it.

[Ruri]

It's funny, when someone is shouting for Ifrit parties just for BLM/THM, I go as that. Then enter the content as melee job. Majority of the time, I can out dps the mages. MNK is sooo much fun on Ifrit. I was red most of the time!

They should get rid of the class or limit ONE per party xD hahhaa jk but that's how I feel about it.

For Ifrit/Moogle I can out DPS weak mages on Drg/Brd/Mnk. Like I said before it's all about how you play the classes.

[DeadRiser]

For Ifrit/Moogle I can out DPS weak mages on Drg/Brd/Mnk. Like I said before it's all about how you play the classes.

But the community won't let you play that way. You either choose the classes/jobs they want or you find someone else.

And Square Enix needs to punish ranged classes as much as they punish melees. Coincounter sort of did this. With the slugs using silence and Coincounter using Eye of the Beholder. I've seen SOOOOO many BLM and BRD die to that move, and EVERYTIME I laugh lol.

[Ruri]

But the community won't let you play that way. You either choose the classes/jobs they want or you find someone else.

And Square Enix needs to punish ranged classes as much as they punish melees. Coincounter sort of did this. With the slugs using silence and Coincounter using Eye of the Beholder. I've seen SOOOOO many BLM and BRD die to that move, and EVERYTIME I laugh lol.

I tell them If I don't do well I will switch, then they realize I know what I'm doing and its no problem.

[Delsus]

But the community won't let you play that way. You either choose the classes/jobs they want or you find someone else.

And Square Enix needs to punish ranged classes as much as they punish melees. Coincounter sort of did this. With the slugs using silence and Coincounter using Eye of the Beholder. I've seen SOOOOO many BLM and BRD die to that move, and EVERYTIME I laugh lol.

Easy fix, use the damage types, make a boss thats immune to projectile and magic damage, then BLM and BRD are useless (I would have done that on Garuda if I were SE) thats what bandwagoning classes should do, and as soon as the community learns this they would balance things out for other content.

[DeadRiser]

Easy fix, use the damage types, make a boss thats immune to projectile and magic damage, then BLM and BRD are useless (I would have done that on Garuda if I were SE) thats what bandwagoning classes should do, and as soon as the community learns this they would balance things out for other content.

That's the thing though. I don't want to make them useless. I just want balanced content. Garuda was supposed to "sort of" do that and look where we are now lol.

[Delsus]

That's the thing though. I don't want to make them useless. I just want balanced content. Garuda was supposed to "sort of" do that and look where we are now lol.

Just temp useless to show the community what bandwagoning can do, one fight, SE is awesome at over nerfing, I remember the modus veritas fix when you could oneshot any mob in the game stacking SCHs, one uses a helix then at just the right time everyone uses modus veritas and bam down it goes in one. This got fixed my making any high lvl NM resist modus veritas most of the time.

[Elexia]

The only reason BLM was rare was due to ToAU era, which heavily favored TP burning style parties due to SOME (not all, despite community perception) monsters having magic resistance or flatout reflected magic. Prior to ToAU BLMs was the most sought after job for MB damage so you did have the group of BLMs, especially during manaburn era, which you would get manaburned (4 blm, 1 refresher and sleeper (who also pulled) and a leech or 5th blm) so it was actually always easy to level in XI, just was a longer process.

So while in comparison, there wasn't as many BLMs, mostly because BLM wasn't a job you could just pick up and play, same with RDM, WHM or NIN for example. The "Pick up and play" jobs were PLD, SAM, WAR and MNK, which is what you seen most of. In XIV, you see BLM/THMs/WHM/CNJ's EVERYWHERE because its the 'easy win' jobs of the game and other classes/jobs are getting scarce because well the community want the sure fire way to win everything and not even try. Yes WHMs are almost always required, but the reason you rarely see other stuff is due to the community playstyle, especially when shit like THM/BLM burn on Garuda springs up.

[Preypacer]

That's the thing though. I don't want to make them useless. I just want balanced content. Garuda was supposed to "sort of" do that and look where we are now lol.

They should give classes and damage types specific utility against the mobs. A certain type of attack/damage from a mage creates a weakness that can then benefit the melees... whom can then use their abilities to weaken the mob's armor for ranged attacks, etc...

Set the fights up so that the classes aren't just mutually doing damage, but are creating opportunities for the other classes to do their part, meanwhile, everyone is doing their part to bring the thing down. This can work really well if there's going to be damage done to specific appendages, etc.

If it's strictly "damage type", then people are always going to find the "most effective/efficient" setups for that damage type and stack it; a la BLM burns.

Bring all classes and damage types into the fold. Give everyone a role.