Black Mage - the solution for everything?

[Duelle]

Only if you don't form your own groups and strategies.

BS reasoning is BS. For every one person that may by luck be open-minded you have 30 people who whine and want only the "accepted" strategies. Again, it shouldn't be an uphill battle. Making your own group does not negate the uphill battle part of forming a group.

[Majidah]

I never argued that it should be. My point is this: if you're not the party leader, you have no right to complain. Don't like what the leader is doing? Lead your own group.

well, no you don't, but all the current main fights have a very low drop rate...
so they need to be done over and over.

currently the best way to do this on every fight is stacking blms.

I'm not going to take a route that's less than efficent and struggle when I need to defeat ifrit 60 times for the drop I want. (I enjoy playing blm, I'm just making a point)

I think the fault is not on the pt leaders, but on SE, who designed fights to be like this.

[Molly_Millions]

well, no you don't, but all the current main fights have a very low drop rate...
so they need to be done over and over.

currently the best way to do this on every fight is stacking blms.

I'm not going to take a route that's less than efficent and struggle when I need to defeat ifrit 60 times for the drop I want. (I enjoy playing blm, I'm just making a point)

I think the fault is not on the pt leaders, but on SE, who designed fights to be like this.

You can't have it both ways. BLM burn or go another route, it's your choice. The most efficient strategy is just that, whether it's a blm burn or something else. The communities preference is always going to be the easiest route to victory. You can either use the most efficient strategy, or something else, but nobody is frocing you do use the most efficient strategy. If you're the pt leader and you want to use a different strategy, do it. Oust any decenters and do it your own way.

[Enfarious]

well, no you don't, but all the current main fights have a very low drop rate...
so they need to be done over and over.

currently the best way to do this on every fight is stacking blms.

I'm not going to take a route that's less than efficent and struggle when I need to defeat ifrit 60 times for the drop I want. (I enjoy playing blm, I'm just making a point)

I think the fault is not on the pt leaders, but on SE, who designed fights to be like this.

I completely agree. There should be content that favors other party makeups.

You can't have it both ways. BLM burn or go another route, it's your choice. The most efficient strategy is just that, whether it's a blm burn or something else. The communities preference is always going to be the easiest route to victory. You can either use the most efficient strategy, or something else, but nobody is frocing you do use the most efficient strategy. If you're the pt leader and you want to use a different strategy, do it. Oust any decenters and do it your own way.

I think the point was more about SE's design leaning toward all content being BLM stack friendly at present, and needing some more flavor. Some content that really has more than one "good" way to get it done. If there's 4 different party makeups that can clear a single piece of content w/ equal difficulty and speed, then it's far more accessible than the stuff we have at present.

Of course people will always be looking for the "best" way, but if any party makeup can clear Ifrit in 7 mins with equal ease, relatively speaking, then BLM stacking becomes unnecessary, and Ifrit becomes accessible to everyone on any job, obviously your not gonna try to do it with 8 PLDs that could be interesting but not fast, but MNK DRG and PLD wouldn't be asked if they have THM or WHM every time out, or at least the sighs and frowning wouldn't be as bad.

[Majidah]

I completely agree. There should be content that favors other party makeups.




I think the point was more about SE's design leaning toward all content being BLM stack friendly at present, and needing some more flavor. Some content that really has more than one "good" way to get it done. If there's 4 different party makeups that can clear a single piece of content w/ equal difficulty and speed, then it's far more accessible than the stuff we have at present.

Of course people will always be looking for the "best" way, but if any party makeup can clear Ifrit in 7 mins with equal ease, relatively speaking, then BLM stacking becomes unnecessary, and Ifrit becomes accessible to everyone on any job, obviously your not gonna try to do it with 8 PLDs that could be interesting but not fast, but MNK DRG and PLD wouldn't be asked if they have THM or WHM every time out, or at least the sighs and frowning wouldn't be as bad.

yea this is what I was trying to say ^ O: