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  1. #1
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    Quichy Sturmbruch
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    Black Mage - the solution for everything?

    I am questioning myself.. do people really thing its the one and only (or easiest way) to the win to stack blm's and this will result to a win?

    i am personally really annoyed about that. dont get me wrong i have also an own blm. (who hasnt these days since no one seeks other jobs!!!) cant remember in FFXI that so many people played BLM(!!) -.-
    but i think a drg or mnk can also do some decent and good (constant!) damage.


    there have been videos out of there some time ago where they've stacked dragoons to speedkill ifrit very easily. so is it just about black mages, or can other jobs do also the same?


    i am personally really annoyed about reading just "looking for blm... looking for blm.. seeking for whm"... there are only few classes which players used to play in raids over and over agin (black mager, white mage, warrior).. ah yeah and well brd for mp reg.. the other jobs seem not to be very popular.
    although i think a good player who knows how to play drg for example can also perform really good damage.. while a mage casts a spell the drg hits with auto attack 2 times.. + WS dmg. which can easily go 1k and over (with the 3. ws of a combo).


    seriously they need to adjust the classes/jobs. black mage needs a slightly nerf .. decrease its dmg slightly and also his mp costs in contrast to that. or make other classes more powerful?
    last time at moogle some guy had a parser in the background... for example me with my DRG did around 62k dmg.. while a blm did about 75k dmg which i think is a good result for, because drg cant always attack in this fight (moogles run away, you have to be aware of aeo dmg etc.)...


    well is it just me who is annoyed about that?
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    Last edited by Tonkra; 05-05-2012 at 06:18 AM.

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    Rui Oran
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    You are looking at pick up groups, which usually have terrible players anyways.

    Gotta find a community who would be okay with you going as whatever you want to go as, because it's completely possible.
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    Ruri Valeth
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    It is annoying since I wanted DRG to be my main but my LS usually does war/whm/blm/brd (Mnk on Marl). But whatever, adjustments will be made (hopefully) At least I find BRD alot of fun and am able to play this most of the time.
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    Shneibel Panipahr
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    well I am too but mage use to be strong, deal a lot of dmg and die easy in every mmorpg, so nothing to complain about in this game, what I think you should complain is the way the game building as primal, dungeon and other stuff instead
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    Kuro L'anzce
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    I'm in a LS that does with whatevver job we love to play as, ofcourse still need strategy and all :3 but i love it as i can play dragoon most of the time ^^/
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    Kipp Kaida
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    You tell me. We had a party with 3 DRG for Ifrit and a Bard joined. We lost once because the White Mage sucked, and right after that loss, she told me in /tell that Dragoons have no place in this content. THEY were the reason the party kept losing. I'm not sure how new she is to the game but it seems like she is since lancers WERE all that was wanted way back when it first came out. That means she already has been manipulated by the community that ranged stacks work best.

    Thing is, SE isn't making content balanced for all classes. Everything that is done with melees can be done easiest with stacking ranged classes. they need to release content that is also harmful to ranged classes or make some changes to how much damage they can do at range. Something needs to be done. I can understand people like to do content with stacking many ranged classes, but IMO they shouldn't be rewarded for this. Or they should be gimped.
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    I go as DRG sometimes and it seems fine, just seems easier/more effective with the 4 job everyone wants.
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    Quichy Sturmbruch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    well I am too but I dont ask for nerfed, mage use to be strong, deal a lot of dmg and die easy in every mmorpg, so nothing to complain about in this game, what I think you should complain is the way the game building as primal, dungeon and other stuff instead
    well i think there is a difference between the FFXI and the FFXIV BLM... for example.. and in FFXI there havent been THAT many Blms than we have now in FFXIV running around in ul'dah... i mean i see just almost the same jobs.. its like a BLM zerk

    WHM,BLM,WAR... eh.. where did i see DRG last time?

    and Yoshida talked about making the drg more powerful when he leaves the pet away...
    Well... for most of the community it seems drg is still too weak... although he has no pet.
    and no you cant tank with drg either. you need 1,5 k-2k dmg skills for the dmg jobs to receive attention, which i think is really SAD!

    stack blms and just spam spells, easy way to go. understood


    and -this- really sucks.
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    Last edited by Tonkra; 05-05-2012 at 06:24 AM.

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    Molly Millions
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    I like BLM burns because they are fun in addition to being efficient. If you don't like BLM burns, don't do them, nobody is forcing you to. If you can't get into any parties but BLM burn parties, well, form you own. Again, nobody is stopping you from doing so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    You tell me. We had a party with 3 DRG for Ifrit and a Bard joined. We lost once because the White Mage sucked, and right after that loss, she told me in /tell that Dragoons have no place in this content. THEY were the reason the party kept losing. I'm not sure how new she is to the game but it seems like she is since lancers WERE all that was wanted way back when it first came out. That means she already has been manipulated by the community that ranged stacks work best.

    Thing is, SE isn't making content balanced for all classes. Everything that is done with melees can be done easiest with stacking ranged classes. they need to release content that is also harmful to ranged classes or make some changes to how much damage they can do at range. Something needs to be done. I can understand people like to do content with stacking many ranged classes, but IMO they shouldn't be rewarded for this. Or they should be gimped.
    If you are going close-range melee for ifrit you better know what your doing, if you do its fine if not better than ranged, if not you're dead 80% of the fight and useless.
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