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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    let me rephrase that so you won't QQ,

    I'd loathe seeing characters from different ffs in the same title. its cheesy and a bad resource. a cheap exploit for money.
    Again WHY?
    Why is having characters in the same title cheasy?
    Why not give back to your fan base who made you what you are?
    Why is it bad to make money?
    Why am I QQ?

    You are making all your assumptions on a game that isnt out yet.
    Let me rephrase this if the story was epic, the gameplay fun and the game was multiverse would you support the idea? Because its a possibility and if you have the mentality everything will fail nothing would ever come to fruition.
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    THis is not a good argument. WHy wont it work? WHo says they have to meet? WHY WHY WHY WHY? Can it be done? Why not? How could it be done?
    Let me take that and ask you back. Can you come up with an original coherent story with all the FFs you mentioned that won't make anyone go /facepalm?
    -> Dimensional portals have been overused. Besides Dissidia itself uses a variant of it.
    -> Spaceships. Maybe looking at Dalamud, but we're not playing Eve Online here.

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    Reusing races is fine by me, but that's not all you said to reuse in your OP.

    And you forgot the one central ethos common to ALL FF with a different number.
    It is always set in a different original world, with different races (even if they share the same name) and different characters.

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    Like I said, I certainly don't mind references, cameos, Easter Eggs from previous games.
    I mean if I see a clown called Kefka juggling in the middle of Uldah, I'll give him a smile.
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    • Racial balance from one world to another; for example if you are a bangaa what are you doing in FFVII's world.
    • Would it really be fun to watch an npc beat a boss while you stand in the sidelines unnoticed?
    That would all be boring or weird, unless you change the stories/setting for the original games; doing that would just piss off the people who enjoyed those games so much and don't want to see them changed.

    I feel that is a well thought out and fair argument as to why a FF multiverse: MMO would not be a good idea, aside from the cost of the project.
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    Close mindedness again. Sure I could give me time. But is it my job. The question is can it be done? Its what if it is done? All you are doing is arguing against something that could be made well. Does there have to be an explanation why all the worlds come together?

    Be creative. What if you just make it like a book with chapters. Why not cut them off from eachother and have different scenarios? Why does it all have to be intertwined? What you are doing is using other games as benchmarks, what I am doing is thinking this could work and be original.

    Also who cares if a "Bangaa is in the FF1 universe or VII's or VI's"

    And you cant argue cost because you dont have numbers and resources devs would have. How can you determine SE budget? It could cost a lot but then it could be cheap. Its not like they would have to do concept art on midgar, or ronsos they already know what they look like.
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    I dare you guys to come up with one positive reason it should be done. I already came up with negative reasons on why it shouldnt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    seriously? IMO ff9 has the most dislikeable characters.
    Oh I'm going to change my name to.. uh... dagger. yeah. I'm soo cool.
    oh look at me, I look oddly similar to goku.
    main enemy is way too affeminate.
    and don't get me started with the knight.

    art related everyone seemed to have down syndrome.

    but I guess that's personal taste.
    uhh the story gets weird at the end like almost all ff's do.. but ya its opinion and your opinion sucks. and criticizing the name dagger? a bit of a stretch there dont you think?(of course you can choose any name you want, keep it garnet, or use the japanese versions name.)
    the art style was amazing you are crazy.. how do they look like they have down syndrome, unless you are referring to rusty(steiner, the knight you hate so much) he was a great character who developed a lot throughout the game
    the only character I did not care for was quina, but I liked blue mage so I used her on other playthroughs other than my first)

    kuja did look effeminate, but so did kefka, and Seymour, and many others(who gives a fk)

    and I will have you know mithra/miqo'te would not exist if it were not for ff9 tailed hero(citation needed, but I read it from someone at square during XI release)

    its the best mainline final fantasy there ever was so SHUT YOUR TRAP
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    This sounds a lot like kingdom hearts, except without FF worlds instead of Disney worlds...

    I'm sorry but... a culmination of FF worlds doesn't seem like it would be a good tactic. Each world has a special art style and back story tied to it, mashing them together will seem like a cheap exploit of characters we've grown to love. Personally my favorite art style is of FF9, I loved the humor in the story. I'd hate to see some random figure or experience some forced plot combination using this world. I think what keeps fans coming back to the series is the fact that it is always different, the series doesn't become stale, and it's one epic story after another. I would like to see some added content for some games, which is now possible today and SE really needs to get on that for their next rpg's.

    However...I do find the recent FF's pretty linear, I would like a more "open" world whether they go to open world map or not. I like running around the world and finding random spots that were in no way tied to the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SafeOnBlock View Post
    Close mindedness again. Sure I could give me time. But is it my job. The question is can it be done? Its what if it is done? All you are doing is arguing against something that could be made well. Does there have to be an explanation why all the worlds come together?

    Be creative. What if you just make it like a book with chapters. Why not cut them off from eachother and have different scenarios? Why does it all have to be intertwined? What you are doing is using other games as benchmarks, what I am doing is thinking this could work and be original.
    Because not doing so no longer makes it a single MMO. That is a just jumble of single-player games stringed together in a haphazard jigsaw which most fans would rather go get the original game to play.
    How do you transfer your character from one world to the next?
    How do you transfer your equipment from one world to the next?
    In your own words, how do you flip the chapter from one to the other? Do people want a book of short stories (as you suggested) where each story is independent of the other? Or do people want an epic Lord of the Rings title where you go from saving the world from one villain to the next?

    Translate it to MMO style, do people want to start from lvl 1 and level to cap from one story to the next? If they don't need to, why?
    "I am the super hero who just saved Ivalice" -> Paradrop (in some way) into Eorzea -> one-shot the vans.
    Is that fun?

    All of us here have attachment to our characters in one way or another. Character resets and restrictions (Looking at you, lvl cap in ffxi) in whatever form will turn people away. That leaves the other way -> Transfer the characters from one world to the next intact. How is it possible to do this implementing some form of a coherent story?

    Close minded my foot. I think the one most close minded here is you OP - For simply refusing to listening to the fact that most of the people who answered your thread gave you the thumbs down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    let me rephrase that so you won't QQ,

    I'd loathe seeing characters from different ffs in the same title. its cheesy and a bad resource. a cheap exploit for money.




    Here's a hint: They're all the same Gilgamesh from V. He appears in 1/2 GBA, 5, 6 GBA, 8, 9, 12, 13-2.
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    1.0: Delirium Impulse (Mysidia Gungnir)
    ARR: Dashe Herate (Sargatanas) Dashe Voln (Excalibur)

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    To have a MMO based on stories of the Main series of Final Fantasy is horrible.

    If you take stories of a Main title and make it a story in the mmo there is no surprises. We played them all we know the bosses, the twist , OMG did you see that moments. We know the story. You would also be taking away from the characters of that world. in a MMO your the hero as in your created character which means the main heroes of that final fantasy would be gimped.

    Your getting in to a bad territory of even crossing final fantasy games with other final fantasy games.

    One may like 7 while the others may like 12.

    And who really wants to see a Spirits Within story line.

    Also talking about how the races are generic. There the same as 11 just reskinned and different lore behind them.

    You can also argue the FF1 had elves and FF1 and 4 had dwarves which were smart little people ( I think they were smart in 4). We have materia (it doesn't work like it did in 7) and magitech mounts are coming sometime in the future ( just like the ones Terra, Biggs and Wedge ride in 6) so they are already kind of pulling past final fantasies in.

    Your idea works better for a time traveling Crono mmo then it does a final fantasy were no story ever corresponds with other unless there is the number 2 beside the roman numerals.
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