We don't need them anymore.

[Zakuyia]

Well, the old sets aren't "fear of missing out" anymore because you already missed it.

thats literally what fomo is.....duh

[Zakuyia]

That kind of comment always makes me ponder: did you take part in Feast?

There were people trading wins back and forth thats what they mean. It news everyone knows about.

[Zakuyia]

Now just replace "the guy" and "this man" with "the majority of the player base" and you will understand why the devs are making the change. No small group of players should have a say over changes that benefit everyone except them like the people that hate the glam restriction changes. Call the majority of players entitled all you want but what they want matters more to square enix than what a fraction of old top 100 players want and the company is making the common sense business move of listening to the masses.

This is also a good move for the game's budget because the gear and mounts are already made. They are just locked behind an arbitrary restriction to access them. So all the effort/money used making the sets and mounts will not be wasted if they just turn the switch on that puts them back in the game as rewards. This also doesn't mean that new pvp rewards will NEVER be made again like some people think just because the feast rewards are coming back.

This may upset you personally, maybe even cause you to quit the game before you reach Dawntrail. But the benefit of adding them vastly outweigh the negatives whether you understand that or not. There are plenty of other MMOs that punish their players the way you want them to if that's what you're interested in.

OMG THIS THISS RIGHT HERE is a call to action. People stop acting like you hate the players like bruh we want to see growth you all who dont like growth really need to just leave. Like I dont get it. You hate proggress but complain there is no proggress....please stop doing that its annoying.

[Valence]

There were people trading wins back and forth thats what they mean. It news everyone knows about.

No, that's not what they meant. They specifically wrote "a majority". There is an agenda behind every one of those messages, and it's to push people away from the modes.
Everybody knows win trading has been a problem since forever. There is a gigantic difference between "people trading wins" and a majority having won their rewards out of win trading. It's offensive to read.

[Shipp]

OMG THIS THISS RIGHT HERE is a call to action. People stop acting like you hate the players like bruh we want to see growth you all who dont like growth really need to just leave. Like I dont get it. You hate proggress but complain there is no proggress....please stop doing that its annoying.

Just stop. The entire issue is that SE has gone back on their word. Stop painting this as some gatekeeping nonsense that we just don't want others to have the rewards. It isn't about that. I don't even have the feast rewards and agree that this is a move that makes SE's words worth less than dirt. It would be the exact same thing as SE suddenly handing out Legacy chocobos to players who didn't start in 1.0 and pay the sub when the game was in a poor state to show support to SE. It's utter BS.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

No, that's not what they meant. They specifically wrote "a majority". There is an agenda behind every one of those messages, and it's to push people away from the modes.
Everybody knows win trading has been a problem since forever. There is a gigantic difference between "people trading wins" and a majority having won their rewards out of win trading. It's offensive to read.

I second this. Everytime I read "oh the majority just wintraded for it" it makes me a bit sick to the stomach, because I know what I fought for and who I fought for it. It was most certainly not the majority, like 90-95% of my matches in season 19 for example felt quite real. I loathe the "everyone wintraded" narrative people keep parroting like drones rather than form more than one logical thought and ask themselves how realistic this even is.

Were there wintraders? Yes. Were they the majority? Not even close and the few that we noticed, we removed (i.e. got reported) and they generally got their position on the leaderboard removed.

But it would take actually interacting with the community to know this, not being an armchair expert over a mode they only heard about via a cousin's distant cousin.

[Shipp]

I second this. Everytime I read "oh the majority just wintraded for it" it makes me a bit sick to the stomach, because I know what I fought for and who I fought for it. It was most certainly not the majority, like 90-95% of my matches in season 19 for example felt quite real. I loathe the "everyone wintraded" narrative people keep parroting like drones rather than form more than one logical thought and ask themselves how realistic this even is.

Were there wintraders? Yes. Were they the majority? Not even close and the few that we noticed, we removed (i.e. got reported) and they generally got their position on the leaderboard removed.

But it would take actually interacting with the community to know this, not being an armchair expert over a mode they only heard about via a cousin's distant cousin.

But how would people who didn't even play the game at that time interact with the community at that time instead of relying on false narratives to push their agenda?

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

But how would people who didn't even play the game at that time interact with the community at that time instead of relying on false narratives to push their agenda?

Maybe by not having an agenda and not speaking for other people. Ya know, being normal and not a virtue signaler.

[Shipp]

Maybe by not having an agenda and not speaking for other people. Ya know, being normal and not a virtue signaler.

Stop making sense.

[Capstone]

Times change. OP sounds like they don't even play anymore but still want to complain. The earth belongs to its newest generations just as much it does to its oldest ones. The argument can be turned on its head so easily.

While we're doing things that are good for the health of the game but that piss off a small handful of old heads who barely play anymore, let's demo the housing wards that are owned by a single person.

Just because something once was one way does not mean it should stay that way forever and dragging along a restriction from years past just doesn't make any sense.

I get the feeling we're motivated by different things. I cleared every ultimate because I want to play the game. The titles and weapons are at best a nice bonus, but wether or not someone else can make their character look like mine has no impact on how good it made me feel to make dragon king thordan eat dirt the first time.

If you wanna quit, OP, fine, but if not, maybe instead of complaining, go play the game.