Do you want Dragoon to have a pet!? (poll)

[Hebrilith]

I'm sure this has been said elsewhere (multiple times) in the thread, but I feel compelled to also speak up in disagreement about a pet for DRG.

Considering how FF14 is taking on the lore from the old games (at least job-wise) I really hope they don't give DRG wyverns, no matter how much the user base begs.

By doing so this game opens up to becoming FFXI-2 which is not the direction it should be heading at all. If people want a DRG with a wyvern, go play FFXI.

Simple as.

[ArmorKing]

I'm fine with that, but I still think there's a place for "dragon attacks" in the lore. What about a move that summons a dragon (or a spirit of one) that shows up to do a single big hit (post 50, after cap raise)? It would be similar to SMN style attacks (Odin, etc), rather than a constant pet.

Breath attack (various elemental bonuses - DoTs to heals)
Dive bomb (bind, heavy, etc)
Tail sweep (stun)
Wing snap (knock back, interruption)

You could even tie in job quests to acquire the dragons/moves.

[Skies]

My friend, I have been a Dragoon fanboy ever since Kain. And I do admit that a bit of a dragon aura aesthetic certainly could be added at a later point in time (Freya was my favorite! And look at how some of her abilities are styled), the only dragon I want to see my Dragoon summoning is the friggen Dragon Primal after my Free Company has his flesh for dinner and scales for armor.

[ArmorKing]

My friend, I have been a Dragoon fanboy ever since Kain. And I do admit that a bit of a dragon aura aesthetic certainly could be added at a later point in time (Freya was my favorite! And look at how some of her abilities are styled), the only dragon I want to see my Dragoon summoning is the friggen Dragon Primal after my Free Company has his flesh for dinner and scales for armor.

We're in the same ballpark then. Instead of a constant pet that requires rebalancing of the job, simply limit dragon access to special attacks with a modest cooldown (or other limiting factors).

Otherwise we're just a glorified hopping lancer. (IMO)

[Elexia]

Are we talking about FFXIV AF? Or am I missing something. I haven't done that quest yet so don't spoil anything else if so.

Yep I am, you'll see what I mean.

We're in the same ballpark then. Instead of a constant pet that requires rebalancing of the job, simply limit dragon access to special attacks with a modest cooldown (or other limiting factors).

Otherwise we're just a glorified hopping lancer. (IMO)

That's all DRG is now, which is why they're adjusting it.

[Keramory]

Keep in mind as I post this, my lancer is only 15 and my dragoon in ffxi was around 30ish. Regardless of a pet or not, I might not level it. However just because I dont level a job, doesnt mean I cant appreciate it.
May not be my place to say, but I hope Dragoon does get a pet...or some extreme buff for flying enemies. Thats from just FF lore love, even 11...which is why I bought this game, for FF, even XI.

To suggest we shouldn't or should put something in just because it was in FFXI is foolish in my opinion. Many things to me I do believe XI got right, had it right and screwed it up, or eventually had it right.
For example, although it didn't play a big part in XI, I liked how many advanced jobs had some buff against different kinds of enemies. It added some strat ontop of SC and elemental bonuses.

As for the pet itself, I thought it was a nice addition to XI. That and summoner (and pup later on). I hardly touched these jobs myself, all three around 30ish...however it was great to see them on my team. It made them look more unique and made me feel more unique for being my role. I've read through alot of these pages, and the most I'm seeing more or less against the pet is just because XI did it. Although I agree one a few that not all drgs in FF had pets, it still believe it'd be great to have.

I think we need pets in one way or another. We need to somehow make these classes more unique. I question how classes and jobs will be at 2.0 (I personally believe...not hope...but believe classes will be wiped for their job counterparts), but again I hope they do get the pet.

[PSxpert2011]

You know what, if a Dragoon in FFXIV is going to have a Wyvern, he/she better damn well be flying on the little bastard like "Tecka-mon"!

Only thing I want to add is, after I went through a trial to the death in FFIV, Kain was the only one standing(yeah, the paladin died too). Dragon gear + Blood spear + jump= STFU & GTFO & End of Debate! :P

[Koti]

This post is kinda old hat I do believe, but I toss in my two cents, since I remember it way when; Couldn't say anything when it was really on topic due to the fact my account was not up at the current time (and yes, I restarted. How I miss ye Besaid).

Dragoons through most of the Final Fantasy games have not had wyverns/dragons BUT there has always been a connection to Dragoons with Dragons. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. There was really it seemed two sides of the Dragoons. Those that slayed the Dragon to gain its power and those that worked with the dragons, learning from it.
However to say a Dragoon never teamed up with a Wyvern/Dragon is a lie in Final Fantasy History.

Lets start with Final Fantasy II -
Richard Highwind (Kain's adopted dad), used a Wyvern as a flying mount and worked with the Wyverns/Dragons. The term Dragoon here was used for those who were spear wielding individuals who rode on the backs of these beasts. In part of the story you actually go to the valley where the Wyverns are and you try to save one from dieing.

Final Fantasy III - Nothing special to note here outside of being your standard Dragoons.

Final Fantasy IV - Dragoon's get the Darkside / Holyside thing going on (by the time of After years), also becomes American's (I believe) first time seeing a Dragoon (Hi Kain), unaware that for a time he was connected to the dude in Final Fantasy II.

Final Fantasy V - The first time Lancet shows up, which if I remember right.. allows you to learn moves.

Final Fantasy VI - No Dragoon (BOOOO)

Final Fantasy VII - Cid Highwind, Not exactly a dragoon, but he moves like one.

Final Fantasy VIII - Ward Zabac, like Cid.

Final Fantasy IX - Freya Crescent, everyone' favorite rat gal if you were a fan of the Dragoons. So up until her, you hadn't seen a true dragoon since 5 really. It was about time the Dragoons came back and she came back with her own Lancet and when she kills a dragon, she gains their skills.
This represented in itself the first time people may have really gotten to see a Dragoon do such a thing, as I know 2 was not as popular as say 9. This is where you see the two sides of the Dragoons as well. Those that work with the Dragons and those that kill the Dragons to grow stronger.

Final Fantasy X - Kimahri is a blue mage, Dragoon hybrid kinda guy. (kinda what inspired my direct on FFXI when Blue Mages came out later).

Final Fantasy XI - The debate place. This is where you people are pointing at and going: "Remember that blue wyvern? We either love/hate it." (also the loldrg). They took the Final Fantasy II concept and gave it a minor twist. You had to go save the little Wyvern, some dude used it blood, and you had to slay him in order to prove that the Wyvern was not an evil creature.

Aaaand then we move into new formula Final Fantasy Games..
I'm also not going to get into Final Fantasy tactics.

So really, it mostly depends if the players want to go the Final Fantasy II direction, or a later Final Fantasy version. Perhaps maybe even both.

I always thought it would be interesting if Dragoon could have a sub group. You had those who worked with Dragons and those who were against the Dragons. Perhaps those that wanted to aid the dragons, got a wyvern which had to be raised, trained, and later as it leveled could also be used as a mount (if they ever allow us to control our own airships).

The other group didn't use wyverns, instead they relied on their own brute strength to get them through a fight. Maybe having access to things like Lancet or if they killed a dragon-type mob they gained a stat boost for a duration of a time.

In the end, I do love the Wyverns, but I am a massive dragon-fan on the side as well, but as this conversation goes. I just wanted to bring out the history of Dragoon onto the table, as it had yet to be done and from here, it really is up to the company what they believe is best for the game.

[Vonleo]

If you look at the dragoons AF armor set and compare it to Kain's armor you can tell they based their armor off it. So i say no pet but turn them into a job that should not be left behind when it comes to DPS maybe give it the highest crit damage or something and maybe lower the cool down on the combo's

[Pwnznewbz]

I never leveled Dragoon higher than 20 in ffxi, but I loved the wyvern. In fact, it was the only reason that I opened the class. FFIV is my favorite ff in the series (1st that I played, so I am partial to it), so I know Kain didn't have a wyvern. However, if you play FF games then you know the lore and stories change for every game. If they added wyverns to 14, I would enjoy it but only if it makes sense with the story line.