Housing is the biggest load of crap

[MaeveHatesHousing]

So their advice would be my advice, as well - if you really, REALLY want a house with the next bidding cycle, you can game the system by switching servers and using the World Transfer function to still hang out with your buddies. That'll get you *a* house, probably 100% guaranteed if you're not being picky. But if you really, REALLY want a SPECIFIC house with the next bidding cycle, or want it WITHOUT moving servers, that's a tougher ask.

And that IS your choice to make - if getting any house at all seems worth those tradeoffs.

Pointing that out shouldn't be worthy of so much vitriol.

I PAY just as much, if not more, because im on the 15/m sub, than every single other person playing this game. why do *I* have to make concessions to get access to a system I AM PAYING FOR?

They advertise housing as part of the fucking game, so it should be available to ALL subscribers no matter which server or home world they are on! IF i have the money to pay for a large, i should be able to walk up, and get one, so i can enjoy housing.

saying "just switch home worlds" doesn't fucking work, because people have built communities and friends and are parts of active FCs but you want us to abandon all that instead of just telling squeenix to FIX THEIR BROKEN SYSTEM.

You're damn fucking right it gets people heated, because its not a solution that works. its a bandaid and a slap in the face.

[Yuniko]

I PAY just as much, if not more, because im on the 15/m sub, than every single other person playing this game. why do *I* have to make concessions to get access to a system I AM PAYING FOR?

They advertise housing as part of the fucking game, so it should be available to ALL subscribers no matter which server or home world they are on! IF i have the money to pay for a large, i should be able to walk up, and get one, so i can enjoy housing.

saying "just switch home worlds" doesn't fucking work, because people have built communities and friends and are parts of active FCs but you want us to abandon all that instead of just telling squeenix to FIX THEIR BROKEN SYSTEM.

You're damn fucking right it gets people heated, because its not a solution that works. its a bandaid and a slap in the face.

Watch out love. Soon ''Someone'' will come and agrivate and white knight SE's work on housing. SO be careful love.

[Yodada]

Watch out love. Soon ''Someone'' will come and agrivate and white knight SE's work on housing. SO be careful love.

Nobody needs to whiteknight. This user choose to not participate in that type of content. And before you or Maeve are going to say "No they dont".
Square is advertising apartments as housing except the English translation. In every other language they advertise it with

"Build your home with Friends or alone. You can also decorate your own room".

So for whatever reason the EN translation needed to be dumbed down. *shruge*

[Solowing]

It's definitely a huge ask, which is why even as someone on Dynamis who has seen the number of houses that go unclaimed I can't always suggest a transfer to someone, knowing everything they could be leaving behind just to get a house.

It might be a viable option for some, if their friend circle/FC is willing to make the move too, but that's still placing unrealistic expectations on the players instead of Square-Enix just making a housing system that doesn't screw over anybody, or how the current ward system has fundamentally failed at its intention of creating "cozy neighborhood vibes" when most people don't interact with each other and half the houses are owned by submarine farms printing gil 24/7 anyway. (I still maintain that killing gil from submarines would do a lot to fix housing in mixed wards.)

I'm sure someone will jump in and point out that a bunch of plots across Aether/Primal/Crystal recently opened up due to demo timers activating again, but even if we put aside what a YIKES that is where THOUSANDS of players just upped and left across three data centers, there's the issue that a bunch of people are still going to end up empty-handed because there's still not enough houses to go around (doubly so on Aether and Crystal).

What is a huge ask? What are they leaving behind? Because if you wanna be real about it. The only real difference is like not being in the same FC. I had a friend leave to go to Siren for a plot. And what changed? I can visit them anytime I want, they can visit me any time they want. If I wanna talk to them, we aren't restricted to in-game to chat, I just go through discord. They are PC and I am a console user.So what exactly changed? If they can be reached just as easily as if they were still on my server?

I mean they just upped and left one day, couldn't find a plot on Excalibur, so they went to where they could find a plot they wanted. I was bummed they left. But what really changed? They're right here. Not on my Server or DC but still just as easy to reach, but to them housing IS a high priority. They are willing to the drop $25 to transfer to get that plot (or take the FREE server transfer). And if you don't want to thats fine. But you have to deal with the consequence of that choice.

[MaeveHatesHousing]

[clipped all the bullshit]

Why should i have to pay 25$ for a system im already paying over 15$ a month for?

[Solowing]

Why should i have to pay 25$ for a system im already paying over 15$ a month for?

Because you're not directly paying for the system. You're paying for the transfer. Technically.

Like I can be subbed for housing, but that's not what I'm paying for. Im paying for access to XIV, not housing directly. (Your house doesn't get demolished w/o a subscription active. But it can be demolished with an active subscription as well. Which is why, they can say, housing isn't tied to your subscription, because technically it isnt, you need to go inside it at some point to keep it. But that requires a subscription at some point. But it is not required to have a current active subscription to keep your plot.)

Its all about how they de-fang your argument, by offering you an alternative. Like if you don't want to pay for a transfer, free transfers exist.


Keep an eye out for Mist Ward 27 Plot 3

[MaeveHatesHousing]

Because you're not directly paying for the system. You're paying for the transfer. Technically.

Like I can be subbed for housing, but that's not what I'm paying for. Im paying for access to XIV, not housing directly. (Your house doesn't get demolished w/o a subscription active. But it can be demolished with an active subscription as well. Which is why, they can say, housing isn't tied to your subscription, because technically it isnt, you need to go inside it at some point to keep it. But that requires a subscription at some point.)

Its all about how they de-fang your argument, by offering you an alternative. Like if you don't want to pay for a transfer, free transfers exist.


Keep an eye out for Mist Ward 27 Plot 3

I am paying for both. I am paying for access to ALL of ffxiv. Not just "what luck will let me have".

why would i transfer off the world that both myself and my husband play on? why should i be required to pay more (or massively inconvienene myself) for this part of the game i am paying for?

Just stop licking the boots and realize the system is shit, and it needs to be dismantled and reworked.

Maybe we can start by purging all the "wards owned by one person" so there are more housing.

[MayuAmakura]

Because you're not directly paying for the system. You're paying for the transfer. Technically.

Like I can be subbed for housing, but that's not what I'm paying for. Im paying for access to XIV, not housing directly. (Your house doesn't get demolished w/o a subscription active. But it can be demolished with an active subscription as well. Which is why, they can say, housing isn't tied to your subscription, because technically it isnt, you need to go inside it at some point to keep it. But that requires a subscription at some point. But it is not required to have a current active subscription to keep your plot.)

Its all about how they de-fang your argument, by offering you an alternative. Like if you don't want to pay for a transfer, free transfers exist.


Keep an eye out for Mist Ward 27 Plot 3

Now this has to be the biggest boot-licking comment I have ever seen. Your arguments are:

- If server is dead, just transfer -> not square's fault
- If you can't get a house, just transfer -> no no it's not their crap system design
- If you have a house you won't lose it, but you need subscription but you also don't need it.

Biggest comment that equals to "leave this multi-billion company alone" meme.

You are paying subscription so you can access the whole damn game and square is trying to limit you from owning a house because their system is insanely bad. Anyone who denies this is a big shiller or someone who owns lots of plots and is happy that they can deny people from getting one.

They only require sub for this system because it's the only way to make you be subbed forever or they will lose lots and lots of players.

[Yuniko]

Now this has to be the biggest boot-licking comment I have ever seen. Your arguments are:

- If server is dead, just transfer -> not square's fault
- If you can't get a house, just transfer -> no no it's not their crap system design
- If you have a house you won't lose it, but you need subscription but you also don't need it.

Biggest comment that equals to "leave this multi-billion company alone" meme.

You are paying subscription so you can access the whole damn game and square is trying to limit you from owning a house because their system is insanely bad. Anyone who denies this is a big shiller or someone who owns lots of plots and is happy that they can deny people from getting one.

They only require sub for this system because it's the only way to make you be subbed forever or they will lose lots and lots of players.

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