Housing is the biggest load of crap

[Divinemights]

neither will you buddy but yet you get uppity and mad when we push back against you lol an i am allowed to post here anytime i want freely so long as i pay for my sub and don't antagonize Square Enix or its employees. or use excessive profanity. maybe take your own advice if you don't wanna handle being pushed back

Lmao, I’m starting to think the other guy might be right
It really does seem like the same person is behind multiple profiles, talking to themselves.
You're showing the same inability to read and understand points properly, just like that other account.
Ironically, you're the one creating an echo chamber your other thread only allows people who agree with you to comment.
That says a lot."

[ShadowyZero]

Lmao, I’m starting to think the other guy might be right
It really does seem like the same person is behind multiple profiles, talking to themselves.
You're showing the same inability to read and understand points properly, just like that other account.
Ironically, you're the one creating an echo chamber your other thread only allows people who agree with you to comment.
That says a lot."

and yet people are still having a healthy discussion with eachother on my thread weather blocked or not wow shocker and that includes SoloWing now who is throwing their two cents in which may lead to the same conclusion as here too but we'll see maybe they won't be as argumentative maybe they will i am not them so i can't really say but either way i will keep trolling an throwing shade at those who keep trying to make others believe this current housing system is "good" "its fine" while vilifying players asking for changes.

[ShadowyZero]

anyways so sorry to the people who have to keep seeing this thread blow up putting those two back on ignore for a spell so that hopefully we can get a period of rest.

[Divinemights]

and yet people are still having a healthy discussion with eachother on my thread weather blocked or not wow shocker and that includes SoloWing now who is throwing their two cents in which may lead to the same conclusion as here too but we'll see maybe they won't be as argumentative maybe they will i am not them so i can't really say but either way i will keep trolling an throwing shade at those who keep trying to make others believe this current housing system is "good" "its fine" while vilifying players asking for changes.

It’s good to see honesty and not just outright denial about creating an echo chamber.
Being honest is a good sign.

That particular thread looks like for people who share the dream or illusion of what their ideal instance housing could be.
It’s a space for imagination.
People already knows that SE isn’t planning instance housing, why even bother entering the conversation?
IlSE’s current direction seems to be focused more on upgrading interiors, not building out full instanced housing systems.
Most people aren’t cruel enough to barge into a hopeful, imaginative discussion just to tear it down. There’s no harm in letting dreamers talk about what they wish could happen

[Kahnha]

lolol read the past few pages xD

What is going on?

Can't you three (Shadowhyur, Solomiqo, and Divinerabbit) at least agree that you want housing to be better than what it is?
The distribution of the houses is off wards are nice but they are mostly empty becaue people are more interested in player hubs like Balmung QS or Dia Limsa or Aether...
The lotto system is busted when there are like 30 other people bidding on the same spot and some of those being bids are from shell fcs withe people that have like 50x more gil than you do.. it's not at all fair.

These buzzword; "echo chamber" and "demonizing" lolol

we're dealing with MMO houses my guys be at peace it's not that serious what are we doing? xD

[Yuniko]

lolol read the past few pages xD

What is going on?

Can't you three (Shadowhyur, Solomiqo, and Divinerabbit) at least agree that you want housing to be better than what it is?
The distribution of the houses is off wards are nice but they are mostly empty becaue people are more interested in player hubs like Balmung QS or Dia Limsa or Aether...
The lotto system is busted when there are like 30 other people bidding on the same spot and some of those being bids are from shell fcs withe people that have like 50x more gil than you do.. it's not at all fair.

These buzzword; "echo chamber" and "demonizing" lolol

we're dealing with MMO houses my guys be at peace it's not that serious what are we doing? xD

Thank you love! perfectly said!

[ShadowyZero]

Can't you three (Shadowhyur, Solomiqo, and Divinerabbit) at least agree that you want housing to be better than what it is?
The distribution of the houses is off wards are nice but they are mostly empty becaue people are more interested in player hubs like Balmung QS or Dia Limsa or Aether...
The lotto system is busted when there are like 30 other people bidding on the same spot and some of those being bids are from shell fcs withe people that have like 50x more gil than you do.. it's not at all fair.


we're dealing with MMO houses my guys be at peace it's not that serious what are we doing? xD

you are correct at the end of the day its just digital property at the end of the day, i'm like those two though i obtained a house easily thru my own time and merit i just want others to not have to go thru that experience an for all to own a plot of land with a house size they are happy with and i'm not so arrogant as to believe that others should just be happy with this system cause it supposedly won't get any better or what not i mean none of us really have a say in wether it will change or not thats up to the developers who are placed in charge of this piece of content and Yoshi-P
i'm just a concerned patron here voicing my concerns and grievances is all that it is.

[Solowing]

lolol read the past few pages xD

What is going on?

Can't you three (Shadowhyur, Solomiqo, and Divinerabbit) at least agree that you want housing to be better than what it is?
The distribution of the houses is off wards are nice but they are mostly empty becaue people are more interested in player hubs like Balmung QS or Dia Limsa or Aether...
The lotto system is busted when there are like 30 other people bidding on the same spot and some of those being bids are from shell fcs withe people that have like 50x more gil than you do.. it's not at all fair.

These buzzword; "echo chamber" and "demonizing" lolol

we're dealing with MMO houses my guys be at peace it's not that serious what are we doing? xD

My idea of improving the system is a top down approach. They want to improve apartment.The plots are going to have to be improved first. In my opinion the apartments are a starter home. If the players feel like apartments aren't good enough that's what they want because when you get a plot you're gonna be on this subscription for the foreseeable future. And given that this is a business and they're here to make money.It does benefit them.

They're not in the housing word because they prefer to be in a quick sands necessarily. Players are playing a social game for social interactions. Players don't walk in for the most part to go sit in their plot. We are social creatures.

I feel like the lottery's going to feel busted when there's thirty people bidding because your chances are around 3.33% of winning. At that point I would have abaned in that plot immediately and looked for something else with less competition. If you're willing to go bid with that much competition that is your prerogative but the outcome is on you.

Sing someone trying to create an echo chamber is not a buzzword.When you clearly see , they're trying to stop the discourse when something isn't keeping the narrative.

Basically, this guy says he's gonna troll.Anybody who he disagrees with and you honestly expect a civil discussion?

[Solowing]

you are correct at the end of the day its just digital property at the end of the day, i'm like those two though i obtained a house easily thru my own time and merit i just want others to not have to go thru that experience an for all to own a plot of land with a house size they are happy with and i'm not so arrogant as to believe that others should just be happy with this system cause it supposedly won't get any better or what not i mean none of us really have a say in wether it will change or not thats up to the developers who are placed in charge of this piece of content and Yoshi-P
i'm just a concerned patron here voicing my concerns and grievances is all that it is.

You know what? You're right it is a video game house. So I don't think they care if you don't feel content with your apartment. You want something bigger? Then you're gonna need to bid. And that's gonna keep your subscription active and when you finally win one? Your subscription is still gonna need to be active to keep it.

They know you're not quitting over housing anyway. If they say they did, then they're lying.The game was already on their last legs for them. It's a part of the symptoms but not the cause.

[Divinemights]

lolol read the past few pages xD
What is going on?
Can't you three (Shadowhyur, Solomiqo, and Divinerabbit) at least agree that you want housing to be better than what it is?
The distribution of the houses is off wards are nice but they are mostly empty becaue people are more interested in player hubs like Balmung QS or Dia Limsa or Aether...
The lotto system is busted when there are like 30 other people bidding on the same spot and some of those being bids are from shell fcs withe people that have like 50x more gil than you do.. it's not at all fair.
These buzzword; "echo chamber" and "demonizing" lolol
we're dealing with MMO houses my guys be at peace it's not that serious what are we doing? xD

I want to make it clear that I had no intention of getting involved in any drama or "clown show."
My original post in this thread was simply an observation and one that's objectively true.
Even now, there are still multiple small plots available, which confirms the point I made.

Yet somehow, that post triggered certain individuals, as if I had personally attacked them.
I've said this before, and I’ll say it again: the Japanese gaming industry is significantly behind when it comes to multiplayer and online gaming technologies, especially when compared to Korean and Chinese developers.
Instead of engaging in discussion, some people immediately resorted to labeling me as a "gatekeeper," "white knight," and other dismissive terms.

Ironically, the upcoming FF14 mobile game developed by Tencent proves my point.
It features things like long hair physics, special mount animations, and likely more advanced tech
Fall things that the main FF14 (developed by Square Enix) still struggles with.
This isn’t to take shots at SE, but it highlights a real gap in capability and focus.

The core issue is that Japanese studios, including SE, have historically been too comfortable focusing on console experiences.
As a result, they're falling behind in areas like cross-platform multiplayer, animation quality, and overall technical ambition.
People need to accept that SE may not be able to deliver everything players want, not because they don’t care, but because they’re just not there yet, technologically.