New Player Etiquette

[Kohashi]

this guy was in a sub 50 levelling duty (lvl 30 I think). I asked him at the end if he had done his role quests, and he left. It wasn't gear as he had decent ilvl for the dungeon he was in. Whatever it was he had very, very low healing output. And as a sub 50 tank there is not a lot you can do except CDs to help them out. I ended up just pulling single packs for him, but the dps was so low that he was struggling at the end of each pull. Just one of those groups.

It's very hard to tell why things went awry but I have also met a lot of healers stressing out. It's true that most start out thinking that everyone has to be at 100% at all times. I myself had that for a very long time.

But yeah, showing common courtesy to other players is the bare minimum people can do. It doesn't matter if the class is easy or hard, they are new or a vet. Just be a decent human being, and things will improve.

[Nyastra]

It's very hard to tell why things went awry but I have also met a lot of healers stressing out. It's true that most start out thinking that everyone has to be at 100% at all times. I myself had that for a very long time.

But yeah, showing common courtesy to other players is the bare minimum people can do. It doesn't matter if the class is easy or hard, they are new or a vet. Just be a decent human being, and things will improve.

It's wild that common courtesy is a hot take for some. My friend had the worst anxiety as a healer and I mean bad, but because I then decided to tank for them and go at their pace, they learned the job and now play healer without any issue.

When I play tank, I will always be thinking of the healer. Because ultimately, how much they have to heal depends on my use of cooldowns and mitigation. If I pop everything on one pull, I can't expect to pull w2w with no mitigation the next round & expect to be okay. Warrior doesn't count lmao. It's all good and well to put majority "blame" on heals and tanks, but if your DPS are not pushing buttons, the mobs don't die and we eventually run out of cooldowns. Especially in lower level dungeons.

[Arrius]

It's wild that common courtesy is a hot take for some. My friend had the worst anxiety as a healer and I mean bad, but because I then decided to tank for them and go at their pace, they learned the job and now play healer without any issue.

When I play tank, I will always be thinking of the healer. Because ultimately, how much they have to heal depends on my use of cooldowns and mitigation. If I pop everything on one pull, I can't expect to pull w2w with no mitigation the next round & expect to be okay. Warrior doesn't count lmao. It's all good and well to put majority "blame" on heals and tanks, but if your DPS are not pushing buttons, the mobs don't die and we eventually run out of cooldowns. Especially in lower level dungeons.

Seeing it often happen on DPS wearing the Mentor Crown that they don't fully understand their job and are just wonky with their rotations.
Double so back then when they were Black Mages (prior their "rework") and still kept switching to Astral/Umbral with Transpose in Shadowbringer dungeons.

[Nyastra]

Seeing it often happen on DPS wearing the Mentor Crown that they don't fully understand their job and are just wonky with their rotations.
Double so back then when they were Black Mages (prior their "rework") and still kept switching to Astral/Umbral with Transpose in Shadowbringer dungeons.

Exactly. DPS don't get a free pass in this discussion. They too are responsible for how fast the mobs die which in turn saves the tank and healer some CDs to be able to do another wall pull. It's really a team effort as much as people want to make it out not to be. And I've had good tanks in low level dungeons! Because of them I was able to heal pulls I never even thought possible. Just put some dang effort and be nice, we all want to get out of this 58586840 run of Stone Vigil as fast as possible.