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  1. #21
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    AyumiCosplayGlam's Avatar
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    I kinda want to see the dumpsterfire that would erupt when they decide to lock the next forked tower unlock behind completing this one.

    Also its literally not hard to fix, they just refuse to do it. 80% of the reason people are not bothering with it is the mechanic that throws you out of the raid if you die(just like baldesion btw). Its not a perfect solution but its at least a starting line.
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  2. #22
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    Themarvin's Avatar
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    Kurotora Iga
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendWait View Post
    You've been (notoriously) complaining since the start of Forked tower and you still haven't bothered to research the fights, a PF up to organize and get 24 fresh people in there? Its kinda on you at this point.
    I am going to say it plain and square, the game should not work like that, on top of that you build gatekeeping for those that play the game inside the game and as it comes, and players being rude, for trying to get in, when it is up without having to be stuck on PF.

    That is a fact and uh... also when told to leave is obstruction of game play of current action as Forked Tower is a live things happening, not something you can just privately queue up for via. duty finder or NPC at at any given time you feel like or want to.

    EDIT:
    The current situation should ONLY be a temporare bandaid that should had been fixed in 1-2 weeks after that.
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  3. #23
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    Ube Icecream
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    I am going to say it plain and square, the game should not work like that.
    I mean you can think that all you want.. but not everyone is allergic to prog..

    I had a lot of casuals in my FT reclears so... shrug.

    might be a you problem.
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  4. #24
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    This is that type of weird thread where I somehow disagree with both sides of the primary argument here

    OP is wrong for not even considering to attempt forked in its current form because forked is incredibly fun content that people should at least try

    But the people opposing OP are also wrong for acting like forked in its current form is a net positive for the game and not the centre of the rot that plagues OC

    I honestly don’t know what the right answer at this point is since they seem to refuse to consider a normal mode
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I honestly don’t know what the right answer at this point is since they seem to refuse to consider a normal mode
    I mean their answer is quantum difficulty that they seem to be going all in on. Scales easy modes to be harder, and scales hard modes to be easier. Quantum is gonna do it all! ...or at least that's the sales pitch. I guess we'll see for ourselves soon enough.

    Doesn't solve any issues with the current forked tower, but I personally think it's probably too late to reignite interest in that content now anyway. The initial wave of excitement for OC has come and gone, and the first impression was not a good one.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    They've maintained that Blood being changed at all is a "maybe someday if we feel like it" thing. I don't think there's been anything new on Magic since the "We're thinking about maybe putting in a normal mode this time if we have spare manpower" LL.
    Oh I don't think they're going to get away from having a normal version of the next one. There's been far too much outcry without it on this one.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    For sure there's gonna be a major Occult Crescent meta achievement that rewards something and requires FT:B to be completed or farmed for something, like how the Ai-likil hoverbike in Zadnor was. I just hope is not something I'd end up being interested because the idea of having to farm this Forked Tower for something is not for me.
    They've already locked a TT card exclusively behind the final FT boss. Given that this is Savage difficulty content gatekept behind external Discord group signups, it's definitely one of the decisions of all time.
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  8. #28
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    Making it easier for premades to access it was the bare minimum, so that's all they're gonna do for it while they tirelessly work on repeating their mistakes with the next one! :v
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Making it easier for premades to access it was the bare minimum, so that's all they're gonna do for it while they tirelessly work on repeating their mistakes with the next one! :v
    Maybe consider that Yoshida's turning the ship around here. While I understand the pessimism of the forums and the arguments that have been held about OC(from the systems all the way to FT) it was pretty bad implementation all around because they didn't create a social zone - they created a treadmill, and people hate treadmills since they just have you go endlessly. The reason why is this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Velthice View Post
    I mean their answer is quantum difficulty that they seem to be going all in on. Scales easy modes to be harder, and scales hard modes to be easier. Quantum is gonna do it all! ...or at least that's the sales pitch. I guess we'll see for ourselves soon enough.
    Quantum is what they're banking on because they've seen from feedback if you read the interview the other day that players are 'picky' about their content. Yoshida even made a whole analogy on it with candies at that, with A, B, C being content, and some players wanting to do A and B, but not C, some wanting to do just C, and so on. That's where their conundrum is and they are trying to create Quantum for this to test the waters - I'm going to be participating in it because Yoshida himself said in the interview he wants as much feedback as possible since they're taking a new route to change the game's difficulty so it's variable for all players, not just to the point where X Content is only for Raiders, or Y Content is meant for Casuals to broaden engagement in said content.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Oh I don't think they're going to get away from having a normal version of the next one. There's been far too much outcry without it on this one.
    For good reason, but at the same time, there’s a lot of people who probably won’t bother with the second one because the first was inaccessible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Verty
    They've already locked a TT card exclusively behind the final FT boss. Given that this is Savage difficulty content gatekept behind external Discord group signups, it's definitely one of the decisions of all time.
    They definitely weren’t thinking when they decided to scrap doing two versions and instead created this mishmash of BA/DR… and forgot BA didn’t lock a card, and the Bozja cards and field notes weren’t locked behind DRS! As a collector, both the notes and the card are my biggest gripe. I couldn’t care less about the mount. I want a Normal mode to get the Normal level rewards in there!
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