Housing is the biggest load of crap

[Yuniko]

you joined the thread late and thats ok i understand not wanting to fish thru several pages of back and forth straw manning and gate keeper slop but i've already stated i own a plot and several apartments from alts and that my purpose here was to advocate for changing the system so that everyone gets a house they specifically want with it being any size they want it, certain players in these forums think thats a pipe dream though an keep discouraging people from asking an let me say that we've been asking nicely at that an being respectful towards the developers in our request but you have certain individuals who just come here to grief cause their fragile little ego's can't handle someone wanting better than what they own lmao so they keep gaslighting and virtue signalling that players are just lazy and entitled when in truth there would be no argument if the system wasnt designed as it is.

Thank you for putting it the way i wasn't. :<

I'm sorry for failing at wording it better.

[ShadowyZero]

Thank you for putting it the way i wasn't. :<

I'm sorry for failing at wording it better.

oh you're fine i understood where you're coming from don't worry ^^ and i will continue to make fun of an mock these gate keeping elites an call them out for what they are so long as i have this "echo chamber" they've so nicely given me haha
we really shouldn't be fighting over this system in my honest oppinion every single one of us knows its not perfect and needs to be changed up the developers may decide its not worth the investment of resources and thats a tragic shame if that happens but the game is still running so that means we can still keep asking until something is done about it. persistance does pay off as does starting a movement for it.

[Solowing]

oh you're fine i understood where you're coming from don't worry ^^ and i will continue to make fun of an mock these gate keeping elites an call them out for what they are so long as i have this "echo chamber" they've so nicely given me haha
we really shouldn't be fighting over this system in my honest oppinion every single one of us knows its not perfect and needs to be changed up the developers may decide its not worth the investment of resources and thats a tragic shame if that happens but the game is still running so that means we can still keep asking until something is done about it. persistance does pay off as does starting a movement for it.

Don't worry I'll be here to mock you as well. Youre an entitled idealist. Who cant stand anyone disagreeing with you. You think only opinions that echo yours the only acceptable ones, an anything that deviates is just the opinion of terrible human beings.

You'd rather a moderator shut this thread down because you cant force a narrative, so you'd rather stop the discourse entirely. Not to mention telling other forum users to block people for not echoing your sentiment..

You're desperately looking for a narrative to control. And a echo chamber to do it in.

ignore and block anyone who is trying to derail our discussion dont engage with them let their comments get buried into the dust dont feed them attention we'll all feel better for our own sanity that way

Discourse has shifted noticeably over recent years, and now the emphasis isn't on one side "having the more convincing arguments/ideas", it's about smearing the other side so that people aren't even willing to consider listening to their point of view - or you can attempt to shame someone simply for being open to hearing the other side out:

I mean, is it really forcing anyone tho like if someone realizes they disliked FFXIV and unsubbed longer than 45 days, they can just move on from the game?

any just like that i am adding another to my ignore list lol i swear you can't get any sorta compromise with these housing baron's elites xD

[ShadowyZero]

Don't worry I'll be here to mock you as well. Youre an entitled idealist. Who cant stand anyone disagreeing with you.

ironic coming from someone who keeps telling people what they can and can't have in a videogame that's pay to play isn't that whats called being a hypocrite?

or am i wrong in assuming you have such good intentions by telling people to settle for whats been given to them when the very thread you walked into here is a critique of the housing system not a "Tell People They Can have X for Housing" thread you clearly came here with intention to fight and be disingenuous

then you go on to continue bothering people who expressed disinterest in your opinion on whats available versus what they actually want and magically you expect them to all just agree with your opinion as fact but then when you get clapped back you retort by saying they don't really want housing then lol because THEY disagreed with you.
so it looks as though every thing you accuse me of is by default an admission of your own feelings making you no different from what you say i am SoloWing.

[Solowing]

ironic coming from someone who keeps telling people what they can and can't have in a videogame that's pay to play isn't that whats called being a hypocrite?

or am i wrong in assuming you have such good intentions by telling people to settle for whats been given to them when the very thread you walked into here is a critique of the housing system not a "Tell People They Can have X for Housing" thread you clearly came here with intention to fight and be disingenuous

then you go on to continue bothering people who expressed disinterest in your opinion on whats available versus what they actually want and magically you expect them to all just agree with your opinion as fact but then when you get clapped back you retort by saying they don't really want housing then lol because THEY disagreed with you.
so it looks as though every thing you accuse me of is by default an admission of your own feelings making you no different from what you say i am SoloWing.

what are you entitled to when it comes to housing as a feature? Are you entitled to a plot? Are you entitled to a small medium or large? Are you entitled to an apartment? I think you're entitled to housing as a feature. But does that mean you're entitled to a plot? No. I'm not saying you can't have anything. Im not stopping you from obtaining anything. If you wanna go for a plot I say go for it, best of luck. Where am I gatekeeping you?

Somewhat yeah. I mean if there are no plots available then you're just gonna have to get comfortable with an apartment until one becomes available. Don't worry, this was the apartment i spent from April 2016 until October 2017. I had to get comfortable, and I did. It was my own little spot to hangout


It's a forum. People are reading the comments and replying to them. It doesn't matter if you block me because i'm still sharing the information. You don't see my replies, but it doesn't stop the reply from getting out. It's not to bother you its a reply in general to the statement. Other people can read and reply to it if they chose.


I say players don't really want housing.Because the players who really want a plot they would've had one already. If the really seen it as a priority. People say they want a lot of things but their actions speak louder then their words ever could. And their actions as it stands to housing is saying a whole lot different to what you say the congregate playerbase wants. As housing it completely disconnected from the games other aspects. Anyone who is in the housing ward either accidently wandered in or is there by choice. But if most of the players choose not to be there and rather a hub with other players like in limsa. What you say the players want isn't matching up with the reality.What's going on.

[Nyastra]

So up in arms about all of this. "You joined the thread late" I didn't but go off.

Yesterday I lost out on my 3rd Medium Shirogane plot and ya know what? I got my gil back bought a glam and carried on with my day. I will bid again when another opens. Do I want this plot so badly? Yeah I do. Hence only bidding on Medium Shirogane plots despite the fact that it might take me months to actually get one. I have an apartment and an FC room too and actually have been stuck on their themes for a while. I do not miss the old system one bit. The amount of days and nights that I did all nighters to try and get a small plot, I've lost count. Now, I can place my bid, and carry on with my life. Could I get a small? Yes 100%, but I don't want a small and I'm okay with waiting until I get what I want. If I want to go decorate something in the meantime, I'll go mess around in my FC or apartment.

[Verty]

you joined the thread late and thats ok i understand not wanting to fish thru several pages of back and forth straw manning and gate keeper slop but i've already stated i own a plot and several apartments from alts and that my purpose here was to advocate for changing the system so that everyone gets a house they specifically want with it being any size they want it, certain players in these forums think thats a pipe dream though an keep discouraging people from asking an let me say that we've been asking nicely at that an being respectful towards the developers in our request but you have certain individuals who just come here to grief cause their fragile little ego's can't handle someone wanting better than what they own lmao so they keep gaslighting and virtue signalling that players are just lazy and entitled when in truth there would be no argument if the system wasnt designed as it is.

Thank you for putting it the way i wasn't. :<

I'm sorry for failing at wording it better.

oh you're fine i understood where you're coming from don't worry ^^ and i will continue to make fun of an mock these gate keeping elites an call them out for what they are so long as i have this "echo chamber" they've so nicely given me haha
we really shouldn't be fighting over this system in my honest oppinion every single one of us knows its not perfect and needs to be changed up the developers may decide its not worth the investment of resources and thats a tragic shame if that happens but the game is still running so that means we can still keep asking until something is done about it. persistance does pay off as does starting a movement for it.

Isn't it exhausting to run two accounts on these forums just to have someone to agree with you?

[ShadowyZero]

Isn't it exhausting to run two accounts on these forums just to have someone to agree with you?

good sir, Yuniko is their own person whom i have no influence or control over i've never met them ingame only here on these forums from what i can tell they seem like a grounded person an who is just tired of the system like so many others are.
if something i said resonated with how they feel they are allowed to express that they agree with me. it is not validation i seek as i said previously i am a court jester an i will mock those who show up only to discourage what this thread was posted about an those who are telling people its "the current way or no way at all" mentalities.