Housing is the biggest load of crap

[Solowing]

Exactly.. it's what im trying to say. MY PERSONAL RNG is so bad. i have not won a single house since housing came out, the new one i mean... so how can i be a bad person for going for Med, or large, if even getting a small is harder then winning IRL lottery?

Why not aim for the plots nobody is bidding on?

[CCheshire]

Exactly.. it's what im trying to say. MY PERSONAL RNG is so bad. i have not won a single house since housing came out, the new one i mean... so how can i be a bad person for going for Med, or large, if even getting a small is harder then winning IRL lottery?

No one said you were a bad person, but perhaps a bit delusional, since most posters here have at least multiple S houses, and I started 1 year later in ARR than you. The only world I know this would be struggle would be Balmung, and you're on Mateus, which before was considered an empty world in the beginning unless you only started bidding like a 3 years ago on M or L plots alone.

I'll let it go for now since you say you are willing to bid on small plots would mean bidding on any small plot regardless of housing zone, and that your RNG is indeed that bad.

[Yuniko]

No one said you were a bad person, but perhaps a bit delusional, since most posters here have at least multiple S houses, and I started 1 year later in ARR than you. The only world I know this would be struggle would be Balmung, and you're on Mateus, which before was considered an empty world in the beginning unless you only started bidding like a 3 years ago on M or L plots alone.

I'll let it go for now since you say you are willing to bid on small plots would mean bidding on any small plot regardless of housing zone, and that your RNG is indeed that bad.

I absolutely am willing to bid on ANY SMALL, MED, LARGE.

i just have a RNG that's worse than anything else. I mean i'm sure i have a better chance of getting struck singlely by a meteor IRL, than winning a house in FF. :x

[ShadowyZero]

Imagine that.

you joined the thread late and thats ok i understand not wanting to fish thru several pages of back and forth straw manning and gate keeper slop but i've already stated i own a plot and several apartments from alts and that my purpose here was to advocate for changing the system so that everyone gets a house they specifically want with it being any size they want it, certain players in these forums think thats a pipe dream though an keep discouraging people from asking an let me say that we've been asking nicely at that an being respectful towards the developers in our request but you have certain individuals who just come here to grief cause their fragile little ego's can't handle someone wanting better than what they own lmao so they keep gaslighting and virtue signalling that players are just lazy and entitled when in truth there would be no argument if the system wasnt designed as it is.

[Yuniko]

you joined the thread late and thats ok i understand not wanting to fish thru several pages of back and forth straw manning and gate keeper slop but i've already stated i own a plot and several apartments from alts and that my purpose here was to advocate for changing the system so that everyone gets a house they specifically want with it being any size they want it, certain players in these forums think thats a pipe dream though an keep discouraging people from asking an let me say that we've been asking nicely at that an being respectful towards the developers in our request but you have certain individuals who just come here to grief cause their fragile little ego's can't handle someone wanting better than what they own lmao so they keep gaslighting and virtue signalling that players are just lazy and entitled when in truth there would be no argument if the system wasnt designed as it is.

Thank you for putting it the way i wasn't. :<

I'm sorry for failing at wording it better.

[Divinemights]

Besides throwing around the “gatekeeper” label at anyone who doesn’t buy into his narrative, he’s got nothing, completely hollow.
The conversation has already moved on to the practical question of whether it’s smarter to grab a small plot first instead of wasting time endlessly failing on mediums and larges.
Yet here he is, clinging to his fragile claim like it’s his last breath of air.
It’s honestly hilarious
A sad attempt, but entertaining all the same.
Ignorance has become his virtue, especially now that every server has plenty of open plots.
Bravo.

[ShadowyZero]

Thank you for putting it the way i wasn't. :<

I'm sorry for failing at wording it better.

oh you're fine i understood where you're coming from don't worry ^^ and i will continue to make fun of an mock these gate keeping elites an call them out for what they are so long as i have this "echo chamber" they've so nicely given me haha
we really shouldn't be fighting over this system in my honest oppinion every single one of us knows its not perfect and needs to be changed up the developers may decide its not worth the investment of resources and thats a tragic shame if that happens but the game is still running so that means we can still keep asking until something is done about it. persistance does pay off as does starting a movement for it.

[Divinemights]

I think people still fail to realize how difficult it is to even get a small in the first place… some people really do have awful RNG. I spent 9 months trying to go back to a small after I realized I wasn’t happy with the medium’s interior layout. 9 months!.

There are really only few servers that are going to run into this issue, mainly because of the unofficially designated RP servers, and Brynhildr being one of them.
For example, I had a friend come back to the game last cycle, and he was able to grab a small plot in the Goblet on Leviathan without any competition at all.

[Solowing]

oh you're fine i understood where you're coming from don't worry ^^ and i will continue to make fun of an mock these gate keeping elites an call them out for what they are so long as i have this "echo chamber" they've so nicely given me haha
we really shouldn't be fighting over this system in my honest oppinion every single one of us knows its not perfect and needs to be changed up the developers may decide its not worth the investment of resources and thats a tragic shame if that happens but the game is still running so that means we can still keep asking until something is done about it. persistance does pay off as does starting a movement for it.

Don't worry I'll be here to mock you as well. Youre an entitled idealist. Who cant stand anyone disagreeing with you. You think only opinions that echo yours the only acceptable ones, an anything that deviates is just the opinion of terrible human beings.

You'd rather a moderator shut this thread down because you cant force a narrative, so you'd rather stop the discourse entirely. Not to mention telling other forum users to block people for not echoing your sentiment..

You're desperately looking for a narrative to control. And a echo chamber to do it in.

ignore and block anyone who is trying to derail our discussion dont engage with them let their comments get buried into the dust dont feed them attention we'll all feel better for our own sanity that way

Discourse has shifted noticeably over recent years, and now the emphasis isn't on one side "having the more convincing arguments/ideas", it's about smearing the other side so that people aren't even willing to consider listening to their point of view - or you can attempt to shame someone simply for being open to hearing the other side out:

I mean, is it really forcing anyone tho like if someone realizes they disliked FFXIV and unsubbed longer than 45 days, they can just move on from the game?

any just like that i am adding another to my ignore list lol i swear you can't get any sorta compromise with these housing baron's elites xD

[ShadowyZero]

Don't worry I'll be here to mock you as well. Youre an entitled idealist. Who cant stand anyone disagreeing with you.

ironic coming from someone who keeps telling people what they can and can't have in a videogame that's pay to play isn't that whats called being a hypocrite?

or am i wrong in assuming you have such good intentions by telling people to settle for whats been given to them when the very thread you walked into here is a critique of the housing system not a "Tell People They Can have X for Housing" thread you clearly came here with intention to fight and be disingenuous

then you go on to continue bothering people who expressed disinterest in your opinion on whats available versus what they actually want and magically you expect them to all just agree with your opinion as fact but then when you get clapped back you retort by saying they don't really want housing then lol because THEY disagreed with you.
so it looks as though every thing you accuse me of is by default an admission of your own feelings making you no different from what you say i am SoloWing.