Official Statement: Regarding Mod Usage and Culture

[Halivel]

Tbth with you IK nothing about the logistics but I do know they do not want to lose subscribers 270k players were using the plug in that's paying square at least 2.9 million if just a small fraction of that broke off because of lack of plugs square would hate that, personally I want square to do well and I want the game to be healthy it is my favorite mmo after all.

I'd also like to point out that the viera that was talking silly removed his hat, those hats were still a mistake you're on fraud watch pal.

Did all 270k actively use it, though?
Or did part of them have left the game already at some point in the past anyway, and some other part set it up and maybe used it once and then forgot about it?
That's a genuine question, because I don't know. I know that your point goes off from the other person saying they'd like see all those player gone, but still, if we're trying to be realistic, is the total count of players that registered for it truly representative of how many people used it on a day-to-day basis?

That said, I feel like people still vastly overstimate how many people will geniunely leave the game for good over Mare being taken down, considering modding as a whole didn't go anywhere, and also considering a lot of people actually do understand that using plug-ins is a "privelege" and that they're not owed it.
There's also a chance that is much higher than zero that some players will take a break and then come back. We've seen plenty of times even on forum how people say "I'm leaving the game", but then keep posting on here, meaning they didn't, in fact, leave (because you need an active subscription and to log in at least once in last couple of weeks. I know because I was offline for about a month once due to health issues, and then when I tried to post, the forum knocked me off with a "uhhmm sorry looks like you weren't online in the game lately, try again later" message).

[MsMisato]

That is incorrect lmao

by all means show your math then.

[Kahnha]

Did all 270k actively use it, though?
Or did part of them have left the game already at some point in the past anyway, and some other part set it up and maybe used it once and then forgot about it?
That's a genuine question, because I don't know. I know that your point goes off from the other person saying they'd like see all those player gone, but still, if we're trying to be realistic, is the total count of players that registered for it truly representative of how many people used it on a day-to-day basis?

That said, I feel like people still vastly overstimate how many people will geniunely leave the game for good over Mare being taken down, considering modding as a whole didn't go anywhere, and also considering a lot of people actually do understand that using plug-ins is a "privelege" and that they're not owed it.
There's also a chance that is much higher than zero that some players will take a break and then come back. We've seen plenty of times even on forum how people say "I'm leaving the game", but then keep posting on here, meaning they didn't, in fact, leave (because you need an active subscription and to log in at least once in last couple of weeks. I know because I was offline for about a month once due to health issues, and then when I tried to post, the forum knocked me off with a "uhhmm sorry looks like you weren't online in the game lately, try again later" message).

wouldn't be able to tell who was active on the thing all I can give is the dev's statement that there were 270k users he was using an offset of a main plug that modders use, from my understanding so it is likely more people than just 270k using add ons o the game. xD

Again the person I was replying to was very see the world burn about it which is again pretty stupid of a take.

mods are against TOS but square has done sweet FA to stop them from doing it. if Plug ins was an issue it should have been nipped at the bud
but square ignored it, not a smart moves and even getting rid of them wouldn't be smart because it is open that square takes note of mods that add QOL to the game banning the original mod creators... speech bubbles it was a mod, the improvements made to gpose mode... mods among many other things.

[BlisteringFrost]

by all means show your math then.

You do not have any force capable of obligating me do humor you. You have google. Use it.

Or don't.

[Asgon]

wouldn't be able to tell who was active on the thing all I can give is the dev's statement that there were 270k users he was using an offset of a main plug that modders use, from my understanding so it is likely more people than just 270k using add ons o the game. xD

Again the person I was replying to was very see the world burn about it which is again pretty stupid of a take.

mods are against TOS but square has done sweet FA to stop them from doing it. if Plug ins was an issue it should have been nipped at the bud
but square ignored it, not a smart moves and even getting rid of them wouldn't be smart because it is open that square takes note of mods that add QOL to the game banning the original mod creators... speech bubbles it was a mod, the improvements made to gpose mode... mods among many other things.

in before you gonna spout any more nonsense numbers

all data from the dev itself:

270k registered users
130k were active in the last 30 days
daily average between 10k to 25k
all time high 35k


just wondering are you gonna tell us that FF14 has 40 Million active players next? lol

[Aelin_Ashryver]

As ever fight club rules and we wouldn't have an issue, shame so many people have no self control and wanna plaster their modded tarts all over social media )

[RedLolly]

What's funny is I've noticed on my server last night, a Saturday, that the players just bebopping around Limsa are more commonly wearing skimpy gear, using what's available in game. Those 2B pants have returned as the game's most popular glam and people are doing suggestive things with emotes. RP club shouts were rolling faster than usual and the crowd was enormous in the plaza.

There is no gooner exodus unsubbed. They got creative and went back to business as usual. Game's gonna be fine.

[Halivel]

RP club shouts were rolling faster than usual and the crowd was enormous in the plaza.

I can't say for everyone but I'll be honest - as someone who's interest in RP, modding taking such a big prevalence in venues is what actually turned me off of it in the past years, because nearly every event ad I've seen went with a silent expectation that you'll join the mare syncshell.

FF14 might be not perfect when it comes to glamour and customization, but there're plenty of options even with that in mind, and I wasn't interested in installing 3rd party tools to see other people characters' look like they're not even from FF14. That, plus it felt like people had put more attention into flashing their fancy mods than into actual interactions with other people.

If mare being gone means that RP stage will turn back to vanilla at least in some capacity, I'll take it as a win and probably will dip into role-playing again.

[Raoabolic]

You do not have any force capable of obligating me do humor you. You have google. Use it.

Or don't.

"Yes, I'm right. No, I won't explain why."
The modern audience in a nutshell, lol.

[Kahnha]

in before you gonna spout any more nonsense numbers

all data from the dev itself:

270k registered users
130k were active in the last 30 days
daily average between 10k to 25k
all time high 35k


just wondering are you gonna tell us that FF14 has 40 Million active players next? lol

You said 40 million active players not me.

Dev said 270k users so lets say of the 130k active if just 20k of the 130k left and we're lowballing it Square lost 300k in user subscriptions they do not want to lose any money.

Will say it without numbers so you can understand. Plug in users are part of XIV community quite a few in fact, Square let them become large as they are. If some of that large part leaves the game because the exp is watered down for them square is not a happy camper. It's why we got that letter from the producer after the fact.

Me saying the greedy corporate game company doesn't want to lose money being nonsense to you is quite entertaining.

but guess you got me with the strawman at the end, congratulations little lady. very well done.