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  1. #331
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    Carin-Eri's Avatar
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    Well, probably more of this incoming with 7.31
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  2. #332
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    Luci Thish
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    I tried again and I want to die. Please let me do something else. This is not fun. Fates aren't fun. CEs aren't fun. The Endwalker relic was better. I'm sorry, but that's my feeling.
    i did it with normal DT fates in like 3 ish days by doing like 1-2 hours each day, it aint that bad
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  3. #333
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    Quote Originally Posted by theunhappypotato View Post
    i did it with normal DT fates in like 3 ish days by doing like 1-2 hours each day, it aint that bad
    I tried for about 3 hours in one of the zones at the start because I hate exploratory content, but it just wasn't dropping for me. So I went to OC for a bit and I got the 6 that I have, but it was days of me jumping in for a few hours before I got my first, and the last 3 I got right after each other, but it's miserable content. I hate doing FATEs. So it's making it feel much worse than it probably is.
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  4. #334
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    Kazzy Delazzy
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    When the relics were tome only, people said it was too easy they wanted a grind. When it's a grind, people complain that it takes too long. They really can't win.
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  5. #335
    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Its_Kazzy_D View Post
    When the relics were tome only, people said it was too easy they wanted a grind. When it's a grind, people complain that it takes too long. They really can't win.
    To be fair for me personally I loved the Endwalker relic method. I never complained about it. It was 1000x better than this crap.
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  6. #336
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by MayuAmakura View Post
    It's not fun at all. I'd rather have some long ass chain-quest or anything to get these things because this just doesn't feel fun. Who the hell wants to do fates whole day? This is incredibly boring and tedious.

    in OC you must wait for critical encounters which is already snoring fest. Then come to them and then "oh I didn't get one snap...". Doing regular fates is more impossible since everyone has faster mount than you as a new starter and then you fail to come in time as fates die in seconds.

    Doing outside in dawntrail zones? Sure but drop rates are even worse it seems. Let's not mention that a lot of mentors now are farming this with bot programs so they can afk and do something else for the day. This just shows how this content is so engaging and lovely.
    Then buy the map

    Why do people act like going to fates in time in OC is so impossible
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  7. #337
    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Then buy the map

    Why do people act like going to fates in time in OC is so impossible
    It really is though. Even with the map and having the teleport open I miss FATEs all the time. I'm not sure what secret you found but I make it to like maybe 50% FATEs now that I have that map and like 10% when I didn't. Also, that map is bullshit. It makes you waste your first 3k silver coins on it because the zone is poorly designed.
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  8. #338
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    Sy Der
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    To be fair for me personally I loved the Endwalker relic method. I never complained about it. It was 1000x better than this crap.
    But what makes the relic weapon special is the time that you have to invest to get it. Endwalkers relic felt like any other weapon just come and pick it up. It really devalued the Endwalker relic.
    The same way how Ultimate raiders are proud about the weapon they got for clearing difficult content. The average player is proud about the Relic which they had to invest a lot of time to obtain it.
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    Last edited by SyferU; 08-28-2025 at 11:59 PM.

  9. #339
    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SyferU View Post
    But what makes the relic weapon special is the time that you have to invest to get it. Endwalkers relic felt like any other weapon just come and pick it up. It really devalued the Endwalker relic.
    The same way how Ultimate raiders are proud about the weapon the got for clearing difficult content. The average player is proud about the Relic which they had to invest a lot of time to obtain it.
    That's you not me. I don't want to deal with bullshit. So far this relic has been bullshit. The next step will be bullshit. I want a clear objective that isn't RNG that I can work at. There is no pride. I couldn't care less about pride in a video game. It's a video game.

    The fact that after this RNG bullshit, it becomes like the Endwalker one. Almost like it's a better idea.
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  10. #340
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    Hammy Fields
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    That's you not me. I don't want to deal with bullshit. So far this relic has been bullshit. The next step will be bullshit. I want a clear objective that isn't RNG that I can work at. There is no pride. I couldn't care less about pride in a video game. It's a video game.

    The fact that after this RNG bullshit, it becomes like the Endwalker one. Almost like it's a better idea.
    There is a clear objective, get the demiatma, most of the other relics had an RNG step in some form or fashion and it sounds like you just have bad luck with this one. EW relics were horrible and I never want them to do relics that way again. Relics are something you can grind on overtime (I am glad we didn't have to get demiatma for every relic, that would've been too much). I think its a perfect medium to have a one time grind followed by either less of a grind or tomes, we have 21 jobs now after all. I had bad luck with some of the demiatma but I just hard focused the ones I needed and got through it instead of endlessly complaining on the forums about it.
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