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    MicahZerrshia's Avatar
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    Nadja Zielle
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Altina_Orion View Post
    I don't believe that. at a 5% drop rate, you should get it within 120 for one type of materia, which would take a few hours for sure. If you have zero, you haven't worked for 3 days unless you are doing like 30 minute days.
    Yeah, cause RNG can't do RNG things and just suck somtimes lol. Just because there are averages doesn't mean diddly since outliers can and do exist. Having a failsafe due to such outliers should be taken into consideration.
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    Khryseis Astra
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    Brynhildr
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    No joke, I'm actually holding onto the additional candies I got. I'm too scared for the devs to pull another middlefinger and actually tell us next step that you can use them for whatever devilish thing they would come up with. The player outrage would be colossal, but I still don't trust them one bit.
    And in the case they actually do listen to your ideas for exchanging them, which I do appreciate, then keeping my useless candies will be sound anyway.
    I only got extras in 2 colors, but like you, I’m holding onto them until this entire relic process is done just in case. Not that I really think they would repeat this step with the exact same drops; it would probably be some other annoying RNG drop crystal entirely. lol but who knows? Maybe we luck out and can trade them for some gold or silver someday…
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    Hoon Tahtoo
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 100


    I finished my grind, with a total of 25 demiatma earned. According to the Occult Crescent achievements I did exactly 100 CEs and 175 Fates. Taking the stated rates of 20% for a CE and 5% for a Fate gives me an expected value of 28.75 Demiatma, so I was actually slightly unlucky.
    As a one-time grind it was excellent, I think the devs tuned it perfectly. I'm very very glad to not have the lazy tomestone relics of Endwalker. I have plenty of complaints about the current direction of the game, but they did really well here.
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    Nao Sen
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    Culinarian Lv 100
    Well they gave the official response in the latest live letter of them thinking the drop rates are fine as is and wont change them as a result.
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NaoSen View Post
    Well they gave the official response in the latest live letter of them thinking the drop rates are fine as is and wont change them as a result.
    They sure do love their pachinkos over there
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    Kunzite Lockhart
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    Moogle
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Low drop rates are just a "feature" deal with it!
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    Nadda Daweel
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    Louisoix
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I don't like RNG grinding in any MMO.

    This one wasn't BAD. but like...

    Man can't you just like have me grind 999 of something? Ya know lol

    For me grinding is fun when I'm building towards something and I can see the progress.
    When it's RNG, you can enter into these states of frustration because you're no longer seeing any visible progress. You're going fate to fate, CE to CE and nothing for hours.

    I know for my last Demiatma I as stuck getting the Verdigris one. I was definitely crashing out at the end.

    Ask for the phantom jobs.

    I do think that there should be some form of pity system for those.

    Either a Job soul fragment where 10 times and you can make a Soul Shard?

    OR

    If you max out allllll the other jobs they are automatic upon completing the CE. I think that's fair and fun gameplay.
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    Lugubrious Pan
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    I've almost finished getting the phantom jobs finished in mastery. I still don't have the freaking Berserker or Ranger jobs unlocked. I've done the CEs countless times and received nothing. I shouldn't get near 100% completion on levelling and not have the jobs drop. At that point the drop rate is unacceptable for me. I swear they adjust RNG on an account basis and some accounts just have worse RNG than others to try and keep content relevant and have certain players always grinding so they can keep the numbers up.

    That's how desperate I've gotten. Tinfoil hat theories on why I don't have the stuff I need.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I do think the 3 soul shards should have bad luck protection

    If you have 9 stacks of mastery and somehow still have none of the soul shards then they should guarantee a drop of the next soul shards CE because that’s a case of your phantom experience being actively wasted because you can’t spend it on anything

    I can’t imagine having that bad luck though, I’m hoarding like 25 ranger souls in my inventory hoping square will up the turn in rate
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Mike Aettir
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    Cerberus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I do wonder how many relevant CEs for the soul shards people are actually completing. I would suspect, not that many relative to the other CEs. I would then ask the question, are you actively trying to spawn the relevant CEs?

    Oracle was my last soul shard I needed and it just would not drop, not that that CE spawned often. So, what did I do? I actively went after fans between CEs rather than going after FATEs to try and spawn the CE more often. Everything considered, it really hasn't taken that many of the relevant CEs to get the soul shard drops, at least in my experience.

    It is all well and good saying you have spent so much time in OC that you have almost maxed out all your other jobs, but how many times have you actually had the chance for that soul shard to drop. That is what matters.
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