Demiatma drop rates are unacceptable

[Nadda]

I don't like RNG grinding in any MMO.

This one wasn't BAD. but like...

Man can't you just like have me grind 999 of something? Ya know lol

For me grinding is fun when I'm building towards something and I can see the progress.
When it's RNG, you can enter into these states of frustration because you're no longer seeing any visible progress. You're going fate to fate, CE to CE and nothing for hours.

I know for my last Demiatma I as stuck getting the Verdigris one. I was definitely crashing out at the end.

Ask for the phantom jobs.

I do think that there should be some form of pity system for those.

Either a Job soul fragment where 10 times and you can make a Soul Shard?

OR

If you max out allllll the other jobs they are automatic upon completing the CE. I think that's fair and fun gameplay.

[Valence]

Well they gave the official response in the latest live letter of them thinking the drop rates are fine as is and wont change them as a result.

They sure do love their pachinkos over there

[SeriousPan]

I've almost finished getting the phantom jobs finished in mastery. I still don't have the freaking Berserker or Ranger jobs unlocked. I've done the CEs countless times and received nothing. I shouldn't get near 100% completion on levelling and not have the jobs drop. At that point the drop rate is unacceptable for me. I swear they adjust RNG on an account basis and some accounts just have worse RNG than others to try and keep content relevant and have certain players always grinding so they can keep the numbers up.

That's how desperate I've gotten. Tinfoil hat theories on why I don't have the stuff I need.

[Supersnow845]

I do think the 3 soul shards should have bad luck protection

If you have 9 stacks of mastery and somehow still have none of the soul shards then they should guarantee a drop of the next soul shards CE because that’s a case of your phantom experience being actively wasted because you can’t spend it on anything

I can’t imagine having that bad luck though, I’m hoarding like 25 ranger souls in my inventory hoping square will up the turn in rate

[Mikey_R]

I do wonder how many relevant CEs for the soul shards people are actually completing. I would suspect, not that many relative to the other CEs. I would then ask the question, are you actively trying to spawn the relevant CEs?

Oracle was my last soul shard I needed and it just would not drop, not that that CE spawned often. So, what did I do? I actively went after fans between CEs rather than going after FATEs to try and spawn the CE more often. Everything considered, it really hasn't taken that many of the relevant CEs to get the soul shard drops, at least in my experience.

It is all well and good saying you have spent so much time in OC that you have almost maxed out all your other jobs, but how many times have you actually had the chance for that soul shard to drop. That is what matters.

[Ephremjlm]

Low drop rates are totally fine if the content is engaging, has the ability for player driven content to make things feel fresh, and allows you to work on multiple things at once. I've done relics for every expansion except ARR (just havent finished it) and this one somehow feels worse than Endwalkers. At least with EW we all knew it was just a tombstone weapon, and it didn't waste our time. This one is actually just annoying. OC has no relevance to character growth because you can literally do the relic outside of it. And on that note, I've done so many hours of CE's and there is no way in hell that drop rate is 20%. No shot.

[LaylaTsarra]

Low drop rates are totally fine if the content is engaging, has the ability for player driven content to make things feel fresh, and allows you to work on multiple things at once. I've done relics for every expansion except ARR (just havent finished it) and this one somehow feels worse than Endwalkers. At least with EW we all knew it was just a tombstone weapon, and it didn't waste our time. This one is actually just annoying. OC has no relevance to character growth because you can literally do the relic outside of it. And on that note, I've done so many hours of CE's and there is no way in hell that drop rate is 20%. No shot.

I suspect for stage 2 of the relic you will probably need to have reached level 20 in zone before you can unlock the quest. Time will tell but it wouldn't surprise me.

[Ephremjlm]

I suspect for stage 2 of the relic you will probably need to have reached level 20 in zone before you can unlock the quest. Time will tell but it wouldn't surprise me.

Yep probably some arbitrary roadblock that you can clearly tell will have zero thought put in as to "why" other than "we need to make this zone relevant".

[SeriousPan]

It is all well and good saying you have spent so much time in OC that you have almost maxed out all your other jobs, but how many times have you actually had the chance for that soul shard to drop. That is what matters.

I was making an effort to spawn the Berserker by killing the Demon Pawns until it was discovered that he's an automatic spawn and not forced by mob kills. I feel like I've made a fair attempt to earn it before the community discovered it wasn't a forced spawn and I've fought the fella so many times I see him in my sleep. So now I've been farming Panthers instead. I wouldn't be complaining if I didn't make a concentrated effort to get what I want.

[MicahZerrshia]

I don't believe that. at a 5% drop rate, you should get it within 120 for one type of materia, which would take a few hours for sure. If you have zero, you haven't worked for 3 days unless you are doing like 30 minute days.

Yeah, cause RNG can't do RNG things and just suck somtimes lol. Just because there are averages doesn't mean diddly since outliers can and do exist. Having a failsafe due to such outliers should be taken into consideration.