the FEAST REWARDS return & sell all STATUE EMOTES in Mog station

[Atreus]

Bronze puppy shares opinion about wintrading in top tier matches. Find the mistake.

You don't understand bro, they heard it from someone on reddit, who heard it from their achievement-farming FC mate, who heard it from the novice network, who heard from their bronze-stuck friend that it's nothing but wintrading and therefore completely unearned by all.

Source: trust me bro

[Commander_Justitia]

You don't understand bro, they heard it from someone on reddit, who heard it from their achievement-farming FC mate, who heard it from the novice network, who heard from their bronze-stuck friend that it's nothing but wintrading and therefore completely unearned by all.

Source: trust me bro

"Wintrader" before the season even began. Friendliest Reddit poster. Downvoted back then into oblivion, because "PvP"

Do I really want roleplayers to afk farm wolfmarks to get the same item? No, not really.

I hope Japan stays strong and never releases them again. Making similar set at best, they already did them to be fair, even similar to shadowstalker set. And I think they know of this feedback very well, that's why they made them.

[Doki]

If I had to guess, they are waiting to make it where you can queue for ranked cross-data-center (which they should have waited to do before limiting it to single worlds per DC anyhow) before they reintroduce the Feast mounts. They will probably also give them different names just to fuck with completionists.

[MsMisato]

Actually, sell the figure emotes for $7; no one is going to pay $50-100 for an emote alone.

lol pretty sure some for 300 dollar figures for each expansion were bought for the emote alone.

[Doki]

"Wintrader" before the season even began. Friendliest Reddit poster. Downvoted back then into oblivion, because "PvP"

Do I really want roleplayers to afk farm wolfmarks to get the same item? No, not really.

I hope Japan stays strong and never releases them again. Making similar set at best, they already did them to be fair, even similar to shadowstalker set. And I think they know of this feedback very well, that's why they made them.

There were win trading PFs during feast. It was most def a thing. Sure the devs EVENTUALLY said stop it, but to pretend it didn't happen and wasn't prolific is absurd.

[Commander_Justitia]

There were win trading PFs during feast. It was most def a thing. Sure the devs EVENTUALLY said stop it, but to pretend it didn't happen and wasn't prolific is absurd.

I talked about EU, because the previous posters here are apparently from EU and talking about "wintrading discords". I played both datacenter towards the end - I can't remember any games with blatant obvious wintrading, the kind of stuff that happened on NA on high tiers.

We had this guy in season 10 who ranked 5, he got banned, but sadly the chain of communication wasn't good, so GM's send him the rewards, then he got removed from leaderboard. He is still proudly wearing his set today, no shame. Place 101 got their rewards too, which was good at least.


Sure good PvP players exist, that can make it look like they underperform intentionally or not. It will be incredible hard to crack that down, cause if I would wintrade, you would never be able to tell. One delayed heal by 0,2s is all it took for someone to die instead of live. But for other good PvP players, that would have been too easy to notice, if it happens too often at once. I think some took screenshots of every match scoreboard, they could have checked if there is a pattern of losing.

Boosting alts or different accounts was another thing. There was the wolf incident, a player putting 10 characters in top100. Maybe on individual account, so he could sell them, idk. If it were just alts, then SE could have thought about a better reward system, so it wasn't required to bring alts into top100. But bringing alts into top100 was perfectly normal. I played on Chaos too after Light matches were too bad. So sorry for stealing an armor set, which I didn't really needed, but I just wanted to have good games. Like why no opt out? I feel sad for place 101-110. etc.

I don't think they ever said "they stop it". Just after 100 reports GM's felt like "maybe there is something to it". I reported a top10 melee for speedhacking in Feast, some weeks later he got banned for dingdong.... harassment...They had all the video evidence and they apparently didn't think it was good enough. Something was or is wrong with enforcing these anti hacking rules. Or they wanted to give him a lenient sentence, who knows.

I think wintrading on EU was in the single digit % of leaderboard, if not less. Insignificant overall to call 99% on it a cheater or wintrader by default. The first team seasons were maybe more affected. But most of the people here weren't even around back then. And they do not care for any other reward than the shadowstalker armor. So they try to discredit that very late season only.

Ironically the only PF on EU that I know and that became meme material was this one.



Achievement hunter and collector, trying to game the system. The very same people that are screaming now the loudest. They quickly stopped trying after being reported.
So forgive me if I ridicule these constant accusations of "PvP = all cheater" sheep in wolfs clothing style, that pretend like they care/cared about PvP ranked. They often hate every aspect of PvP. They do not think about what it means re-releasing these items to the mode itself. Why would they? They couldn't be bothered less what happens after they got it.

[Commander_Justitia]

make it grindable in achievements like win thousand times in all PVP content. this will make PVP content ALIVE for sure

Alive for a month, then dead forever. For sure.

Getting wins is a bad metric, a bot could do that. Many good players only play PvP ranked for the items. Why would you try extra hard to win, if there is no consequence to losing? (Other than losing a bit time) It makes matches have less quality.

It went from top100, to 2x top100 per region, to now top300. Already a pretty big nerf lol.

If you ask me there should be a series lvl25 reward, and a better looking version of it for the ranked PvP season. So ranked PvP has something again. While casuals can grind their base version over time, or buy it after a year or two in the store with crystals.

For past feast rewards, there could be a turn in, to upgrade the old rewards to a better looking version. While the base set is getting made available to everyone. Make hellhounds make their scream as special ability for a mount etc. Have shadowstalker armor have dark black subtle particle animation around it. Or whatever. This could be a way to retroactively fix the old system. Where you still respect what players achieved.
Its just 5 mounts and like 5 armor sets, not too much work?

I think most PvP games are doing this... base + better looking version. Casuals + hardcore people both satisfied.

I don't need any casual looking attire as PvP reward though, looks totally out of place. I want it to have a PvP theme - is that too much to ask for xD

[Sarnai]

Sure good PvP players exist, that can make it look like they underperform intentionally or not. It will be incredible hard to crack that down, cause if I would wintrade, you would never be able to tell.

It's not that hard to tell when you see a guy just straight up sitting on base or running into enemy party without doing anything and dying.


And once again I tried to get Shadowhound armor, then tried to get Shadowfiend. Both times it ended up just in feustrations, not a good game. I had better time in League and Dota of all things. Even Alterac with ppl fighting in middle isn't as ridiulously frustrating, as feasts where your win is completely dependent on if you will get a party that has actual players and not ppl who agreed to feed.

[Rakdos_Grimdarkus]

sorry I didn't listen to your long story. I don't like reading too long but we all know that you win traded. and that's what it is¯\_(ツ)_/¯ so those rewards deserve to be placed in NPC section with wolf collars all the season 1-20. there is nothing more to discuss about that, end of conversation period. (Talks to my hand)

[Commander_Justitia]

It's afraid