Here we go again

[Hanzz96]

Calling people on this thread "abilist" when many including myself have disabilities is laughable, its like you guys have nothing else to support your argument other than that particular phrase.

The thing is the game is already easy enough that dungeons even in DT are boring to 90% of the playerbase. Other MMO's have difficulty options but not an easy mode, from normal WOW only goes up. Allowing trust healers to raise means there is no fail state and honestly that's what makes this a video "game" and not a visual novel.

A lot of people in this thread who want this easy mode who are having such a hard time don't like this game. They don't like the gameplay or combat but like dress up, social sims with stories but that isn't what an MMO is.

A lot of players arguing against this easy mode don't want to see combat dumbed down to EW level again because it was so uninteresting but that seems to be what people want because they're apparently 90 years old, with 10 children, cancer, ADHD, have arthritis and don't have the reflexes required to drive a car.

I feel like genuinely maybe single player games would be more up some casuals in this threads ally.

Edit: I'm happy to help people out and often do but often higher end players who are trying to help are met with animosity and called "sweats" and told to leave casuals alone because they don't want to learn.

Also can we stop calling WOW toxic because honestly the toxic positivity forced in FFXIV and the fact that any advice given is taken as a personal attack makes FF way more toxic than WOW.

[Ankhira]

It stinks because that is the whole game. It's just a sad group of losers arguing about how they did something and how it was or wasn't different from how they did it. They'll never lend a hand to help and just continue to denigrate the person struggling. They're the most toxic losers this side of World of Warcraft. I had issues with that boss and I figured it out and did it. I would be willing to help anyone who wants to reach out to me for help. I have zero issues helping people clear.

I get the frustration as some replies have been genuinely awful. But meeting toxicity with more toxicity doesn’t help anyone. The truth is, most of the player base isn’t like this. It’s often just a loud minority on the forums. In-game I have seen toxic behavior get shut down fast, and people are usually quick to offer help when someone’s struggling. Don't let the few bad actors on the forums tarnish the whole player base, friend

[Ankhira]

Calling people on this thread "abilist" when many including myself have disabilities is laughable, its like you guys have nothing else to support your argument other than that particular phrase.

The thing is the game is already easy enough that dungeons even in DT are boring to 90% of the playerbase. Other MMO's have difficulty options but not an easy mode, from normal WOW only goes up. Allowing trust healers to raise means there is no fail state and honestly that's what makes this a video "game" and not a visual novel.

A lot of people in thos thread who want this easy mode who are having such a hard time don't like this game. They don't like the gameplay or combat but like dress up, social sims with stories but that isn't what an MMO is.

A lot of players arguing against this easy mode don't want to see combat dumbed down to EW level again because it was so uninteresting but that seems to be what people want because they're apparently 90 years old, with 10 children, cancer, ADHD, have arthritis and don't have the reflexes required to drive a car.

I feel like genuinely maybe single player games would be more up some casuals in this threads ally.

It is ableism though. Saying “it’s not hard for me so it shouldn’t be for you” is a textbook example. Everyone has different limitations, and dismissing that is exactly the issue. Funny you mention World of Warcraft, because they’ve added follower dungeons, story mode raids, and delves—all designed to let players engage with content at their own pace. That is an easy mode, whether you want to call it that or not.

Also, your whole post comes off as incredibly dismissive and arrogant. Just because someone enjoys different aspects of the game like story, fashion, or social play doesn’t mean they don’t belong here. MMOs are diverse by design, and gate keeping who “should” play based on your own preferences helps no one.

[CidHeiral]

Also can we stop calling WOW toxic because honestly the toxic positivity forced in FFXIV and the fact that any advice given is taken as a personal attack makes FF way more toxic than WOW.

You've been attacking people the entire thread. You can disagree without being so abrasive about it. Chill.

[Hanzz96]

It is ableism though. Saying “it’s not hard for me so it shouldn’t be for you” is a textbook example. Everyone has different limitations, and dismissing that is exactly the issue. Funny you mention World of Warcraft, because they’ve added follower dungeons, story mode raids, and delves—all designed to let players engage with content at their own pace. That is an easy mode, whether you want to call it that or not.

Also, your whole post comes off as incredibly dismissive and arrogant. Just because someone enjoys different aspects of the game like story, fashion, or social play doesn’t mean they don’t belong here. MMOs are diverse by design, and gate keeping who “should” play based on your own preferences helps no one.

A tier one delv has the same difficulty as a normal dungeon. A story dungeon is on the same level as a trust dungeon, there is no super easy walk in and win mode.

I'm not shaming anyone into fashion personally I love fashion and dressing up my character but also have Ultimate clears and bis gear. I liked the combat of the game so I practised and mastered it dispite my disability, its never been easy but I didn't want adjustments just for me so I put in the work.

I have an issue with people who obviously dislike combat commenting that combat should be easier just to suit them because they don't want to die. Not every encounter will be a one pull clear and it shouldn't be.

[Hanzz96]

You've been attacking people the entire thread. You can disagree without being so abrasive about it. Chill.

If you think this is attacking people you need to drink of bag of concrete and harden up.

[Mecia]

Beautiful thread. All the OP asked for was an easy mode for Trusts and not dumbing it down for everyone.

[Ardeth]

I get the frustration as some replies have been genuinely awful. But meeting toxicity with more toxicity doesn’t help anyone. The truth is, most of the player base isn’t like this. It’s often just a loud minority on the forums. In-game I have seen toxic behavior get shut down fast, and people are usually quick to offer help when someone’s struggling. Don't let the few bad actors on the forums tarnish the whole player base, friend

I know, it's just that's how they are to me in the game. I know two wrongs don't make a right, but it seems like it always gets swept under the rug of "friendly" community, but this community has been the exact opposite to me at every turn. "The dungeon is too hard let's make fun of them. They don't like rng let's make fun of them." It's all you see both in-game and out of it. I wish it wasn't, but that's where I am at.

Again if you need help doing it hit me up. I'm trying not to be a piece of shit like the rest of them. I'm trying to help.

[Auro_Seldaris]

Look, there are LOTS of different people of all different skill levels playing this game, from ultracasuals to hardcore raiders. Let's not assume everyone wants or is capable of putting forth the kind of skill expression to "not have problems" with content.

I have seen someone say in Novice Network chat that they mainly play to craft, and they never run content with people only trusts, and even then it takes 45 minutes to clear a single dungeon run.

I have actually had to personally pilot a friend's account through a battle they couldn't get past. The "difficult encounter" in question was the Arch Ultima solo instance in Stormblood. Even on Very Easy, they couldn't get past it, I had to physically do it for them.

So yes, there is a varying level of skill among the players of this game.

[Carin-Eri]

A tier one delv has the same difficulty as a normal dungeon. A story dungeon is on the same level as a trust dungeon, there is no super easy walk in and win mode.

I'm not shaming anyone into fashion personally I love fashion and dressing up my character but also have Ultimate clears and bis gear. I liked the combat of the game so I practised and mastered it dispite my disability, its never been easy but I didn't want adjustments just for me so I put in the work.

I have an issue with people who obviously dislike combat commenting that combat should be easier just to suit them because they don't want to die. Not every encounter will be a one pull clear and it shouldn't be.

Without reviewing every post in the entire thread, did many posts actually say that they "don't want to die"?

I mean, as outlined in my first post in this thread, I admitted that I don't like dying as it makes me feel like a burden, which isn't the same thing.

And I'm curious - what impact on you personally would the addition of an 'easier' mode option have? I mean, the MMO I used to play had something similar to said option and whether or not I used it was entirely my own choice and had zero impact on anyone else.