Here we go again

[Shinku_Tachi]

It stinks because that is the whole game. It's just a sad group of losers arguing about how they did something and how it was or wasn't different from how they did it. They'll never lend a hand to help and just continue to denigrate the person struggling. They're the most toxic losers this side of World of Warcraft. I had issues with that boss and I figured it out and did it. I would be willing to help anyone who wants to reach out to me for help. I have zero issues helping people clear.

Fortunately, a vast majority of the playerbase doesn't match the energy in this thread. Like I said in an earlier post, I've seen more toxicity in this one thread than my entire tenure on 14 in-game (honestly, I can include my FF11 years in that too). So please, don't let the message board get you jaded. I can assure you, most people are good. ❤️

Also, it's always cool to run into fellow helpers

[Ardeth]

Look, there are LOTS of different people of all different skill levels playing this game, from ultracasuals to hardcore raiders. Let's not assume everyone wants or is capable of putting forth the kind of skill expression to "not have problems" with content.

I have seen someone say in Novice Network chat that they mainly play to craft, and they never run content with people only trusts, and even then it takes 45 minutes to clear a single dungeon run.

I have actually had to personally pilot a friend's account through a battle they couldn't get past. The "difficult encounter" in question was the Arch Ultima solo instance in Stormblood. Even on Very Easy, they couldn't get past it, I had to physically do it for them.

So yes, there is a varying level of skill among the players of this game.

I did that for a friend as well, but in Shadowbringers. The quest with the mech suit. It's all about helping.

[Hanzz96]

Can confirm, am casual, get frustrated when I die

There are plenty of posts like this saying they don't want to die because its frustrating. But that is how people learn. Trusts are easy enough, the dungeon is easy but a lot of people don't want to learn

[CidHeiral]

If you think this is attacking people you need to drink of bag of concrete and harden up.

Did you eat a box of knives to get this edgy?

[Hanzz96]

Did you eat a box of knives to get this edgy?

Sure did. Was tasty too.

[Carin-Eri]

Did you eat a box of knives to get this edgy?

No - they ate a circle-sword.

(all edge, no point)

[Bitmoar]

Also, your whole post comes off as incredibly dismissive and arrogant. Just because someone enjoys different aspects of the game like story, fashion, or social play doesn’t mean they don’t belong here. MMOs are diverse by design, and gate keeping who “should” play based on your own preferences helps no one.

OK so again, how should content be tuned? What's easy for OP might be impossible for someone else, so what should the devs do? If you guys just want an invincibility mode with trusts and all solo duties, where no input beyond moving your character (if that) is needed, and an option to skip all non trust trials, just say that. But even then, I'm sure there are people out there who wouldn't be able to manage that for whatever reason. Should SE provide a nurse to those people?

[Shinku_Tachi]

OK so again, how should content be tuned?

I've seen you ask this a few times in the thread. Here were my thoughts on that if you're genuinely curious: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6733234

[Ankhira]

A tier one delv has the same difficulty as a normal dungeon. A story dungeon is on the same level as a trust dungeon, there is no super easy walk in and win mode.

I'm not shaming anyone into fashion personally I love fashion and dressing up my character but also have Ultimate clears and bis gear. I liked the combat of the game so I practised and mastered it dispite my disability, its never been easy but I didn't want adjustments just for me so I put in the work.

I have an issue with people who obviously dislike combat commenting that combat should be easier just to suit them because they don't want to die. Not every encounter will be a one pull clear and it shouldn't be.

In WoW, a tier 1 Delve is easier than a world quest it’s nowhere near dungeon difficulty. I run tier 8 without issue, but that’s exactly the point... difficulty isn’t universal. What’s easy for me might be hard for someone else. So why shame others for struggling with something you personally find simple? That mindset helps no one.

Also, nobody said they “don’t want to die.” What people are saying is they don’t want to be a burden to the group and risk toxic backlash, so they use Trusts. The issue (the whole point of this thread) is that Trusts aren’t doing their job properly. If you die, it’s a full restart, and the AI healing isn’t reliable enough for some players.

If Trusts are meant to support older, slower, or disabled players, then SE should at least implement something like a heart counter. die twice, and the fight resets instead of after one death. It’s not about removing challenges for those who enjoy it, it’s about making the system (Trusts) actually work for the people it’s meant to support.

And for those saying “It’s an MMO” yeah, sure, it is. But FFXIV rarely leans into that fact outside of high-end content. So why is it suddenly so important that the "MMO" be enforced for players who just want to experience the story? I play solo 99% of the time. When I do a duty, I say “hey” and “bye,” and that’s it. That’s not exactly peak MMO. Honestly, I think the traditional "MMO" has long passed. These days, MMOs are mostly “find a group for hard content > clear it > go back to solo play.” FFXIV has embraced that hybrid model for years.

[Carin-Eri]

In WoW, a tier 1 Delve is easier than a world quest it’s nowhere near dungeon difficulty. I run tier 8 without issue, but that’s exactly the point... difficulty isn’t universal. What’s easy for me might be hard for someone else. So why shame others for struggling with something you personally find simple? That mindset helps no one.

Also, nobody said they “don’t want to die.” What people are saying is they don’t want to be a burden to the group and risk toxic backlash, so they use Trusts. The issue (the whole point of this thread) is that Trusts aren’t doing their job properly. If you die, it’s a full restart, and the AI healing isn’t reliable enough for some players.

If Trusts are meant to support older, slower, or disabled players, then SE should at least implement something like a heart counter. die twice, and the fight resets instead of after one death. It’s not about removing challenges for those who enjoy it, it’s about making the system (Trusts) actually work for the people it’s meant to support.

And for those saying “It’s an MMO” yeah, sure, it is. But FFXIV rarely leans into that fact outside of high-end content. So why is it suddenly so important that the "MMO" be enforced for players who just want to experience the story? I play solo 99% of the time. When I do a duty, I say “hey” and “bye,” and that’s it. That’s not exactly peak MMO. Honestly, I think the traditional "MMO" has long passed. These days, MMOs are mostly “find a group for hard content > clear it > go back to solo play.” FFXIV has embraced that hybrid model for years.

This.

There is a definite attitude of "I have cake, so you can't be hungry" in some of the responses in this thread.