Here we go again

[Dakimakura]

Are we really getting upset and complaining that day one instanced content isn't a cakewalk?... really?

If you are so discouraged that you give up after a couple of wipes, I have to question how you got to lvl 100 and 7.3 content to begin with.
I'm sorry, but if you are so self absorbed and stubborn that you refuse to learn combat mechanics in a MMORPG then get gatekept I guess. Just know that the only one keeping you at that gate is yourself. There is no big scary "elitist cabal" wanting to keep casuals out. That's just silly.

It's very simple, those that find this content "easy" or at least mildly challenging also want others to learn and overcome this challenge so it gets easier and faster for reclears and roulettes.

[Supersnow845]

Why are people so unwilling to believe that design gets eaten away at multiple points

Casuals are why the tanks are immortal

Midcore players are why melees get 100% uptime without trying

Speed runners are why jobs are dead if they are 0.5% weaker than the other job

[Volgia]

Why are people so unwilling to believe that design gets eaten away at multiple points

Casuals are why the tanks are immortal

Midcore players are why melees get 100% uptime without trying

Speed runners are why jobs are dead if they are 0.5% weaker than the other job

That's the wrong focus imo. It's just lazy design for lazy players. If you're a hardcore player and you're into speedrunning, is it speedrunning when they force everyone to the same speed?

Casual players struggle with complex mechanics, instead of making the mechanics less complex they delete the mechanics so everyone can do it, it's the laziest design choice available.

[Emitans]

I just don't understand what's so hard about the second boss if you could make it all the way here. This is the single player FF equivalent of the final dungeon. If you've already made it this far, you've shown you have the skill needed for this.

[Hanzz96]

I just don't understand what's so hard about the second boss if you could make it all the way here. This is the single player FF equivalent of the final dungeon. If you've already made it this far, you've shown you have the skill needed for this.

The issue is that some people have to actually try and fail to defeat the boss and they just want to RP through all content

[MayuAmakura]

- It is mandatory for the story because devs know that there isn't big content of MSQ, so some gatekeeping to not allow you to progress fast is key here in their doing, e.g. game sin.

- As for the people who say "git gud" this would be acceptable if we didn't have same mechanics over and over that involve memorizing 1000 patterns and where is the safe spot. This isn't anything new, this is same old crap that they place in. "Memorize where your safe spot is after every 2nd / 4th boss ability, then know what to do every single time when same mechanic occurs. If your brain is sleepy and your memory is poor, tough luck!".

I like hard content but ffxiv does it quite the opposite where hard comes from "please remember how to dance here as there are 100 patterns". This isn't fun, others done it better.

[Supersnow845]

- It is mandatory for the story because devs know that there isn't big content of MSQ, so some gatekeeping to not allow you to progress fast is key here in their doing, e.g. game sin.

- As for the people who say "git gud" this would be acceptable if we didn't have same mechanics over and over that involve memorizing 1000 patterns and where is the safe spot. This isn't anything new, this is same old crap that they place in. "Memorize where your safe spot is after every 2nd / 4th boss ability, then know what to do every single time when same mechanic occurs. If your brain is sleepy and your memory is poor, tough luck!".

I like hard content but ffxiv does it quite the opposite where hard comes from "please remember how to dance here as there are 100 patterns". This isn't fun, others done it better.

But casual content isn’t dance memorisation, it’s reading visual cues

You can definitely say savage is dance memorisation but casual content is just responding to tells

[Emitans]

- It is mandatory for the story because devs know that there isn't big content of MSQ, so some gatekeeping to not allow you to progress fast is key here in their doing, e.g. game sin.

- As for the people who say "git gud" this would be acceptable if we didn't have same mechanics over and over that involve memorizing 1000 patterns and where is the safe spot. This isn't anything new, this is same old crap that they place in. "Memorize where your safe spot is after every 2nd / 4th boss ability, then know what to do every single time when same mechanic occurs. If your brain is sleepy and your memory is poor, tough luck!".

I like hard content but ffxiv does it quite the opposite where hard comes from "please remember how to dance here as there are 100 patterns". This isn't fun, others done it better.

What boss attacks in this dungeon have to be memorized?

[RagAndBoneLady]

Posts multiple paragraphs about how Dawntrail was immature and tropey.

"If you just try hard enough you can achieve all your heart's desires."

[FuturePastNow]

All the boss mechanics in this dungeon are just visual cues to react to. You have to use your eyes to see where to go for all of them. And yet, I think you could still memorize them, because while there are a few different patterns for them I don't think the bosses do them in random order (at least unless they live long enough to start repeating mechs).