Here we go again

[Mawlzy]

From experience with a thread back around DT's launch, some players have not learned that there's more to tells then the orange juice puddles. When I see "reflexes" brought up I'm (in general) suspicious that the player in question is only reacting to attack markers meant to show your mistake (which you are not meant to react to).

I am getting the tells off the objects, but seeing them, processing where they are, determining a safe spot, and moving to it, is not something I can do rapidly enough.

This doesn't surprise me. Over the last 20 years my Rapid and Blitz chess Elo have diverged massively. I used to multitable 12 online poker games, now I can barely manage 6. If I was mobile enough to go to the grocery store, it'd likely take me 15 seconds to decide between paper and plastic. It is fucking painful.

(And let's skip the anecdotes about an octogenarian or someone with no arms clearing ultimates. Edge cases are irrelevant. As this and other threads demonstrate, hitting a difficulty wall in DT is a common problem.)

Gaming is at a unique epoch. At its inception, most gamers were young. That generation is now pushing 60 and beyond and experiencing cognitive and physical decline. SE can choose to kick such people to the curb (despite there being other options available to keep everyone happy). Removing this portion of the player base is clearly what some of you want. Thanks for twisting the knife.

Can one be carried through dungeons? Sure! Where's the enjoyment in that? Particularly when one comes here and reads "How can a level 100 player not complete this braindead content?"

Since I'm leaving soon, thanks and goodbye to those of you I have met in game and on these boards who have been fun and supportive. I hope you continue to enjoy your journey in FFXIV and in life.

To those of you who respond to these threads with open contempt for those who struggle, while throwing around "git gud," "skill issue," and "this game is sooooo easy!" You disgust me. I hope you discover the empathy I believe sits within everyone before you ruin your life and the lives of others.

[Mesarthim]

To those of you who respond to these threads with open contempt for those who struggle, while throwing around "git gud," "skill issue," and "this game is sooooo easy!" You disgust me. I hope you discover the empathy I believe sits within everyone before you ruin your life and the lives of others.

...On a video game forum?

[Bitmoar]

I mean I sympathize, but what should the devs cater to/tune to? They could make it easy enough for you and the other players in this thread having trouble to clear easily in one try with no effort, but there will undoubtedly be someone else who still can't clear due to any number of issues. There are also much more annoying and difficult things in the MSQ prior to this particular dungeon boss. Is this just the straw to break the camel's back or...?

[Reimmi]

Just make it so the trust npcs can res people instead of auto wiping
I don't want content made easier because of this, just make it so trusts are "carry me" mode is the right solution

[Mesarthim]

Is this just the straw to break the camel's back or...?

No. This thread has popped up every single patch. Every one.

[Kuro_Matsu]

Near the minimum item level? I'm 737 on Sage and getting hit once will typically leave me at about 10-15%. Lesson learned from bad timing on a normal cast of Egeiro.

I was on DRG with i734 and the spiked balls and claws were a one hit kill. Didn't get hit by the electric fence thing, but a friend on VPR got one hit KOd from it. It may be tuned to your role.

[Hanzz96]

I'm sorry but this is a skill issue. It is a normal dungeon it cannot get any easier, it is also new content you are supposed to die and learn from it.

I wish people in this thread would stop talking about "normal MMO's" and their adjustable difficulty, even in WOW the normal dungeons, heroic dungeons and mythic 0 have some level of challenge there isn't an RP walk mode like some of these "older" gamers want.

I'm sorry but if you cannot play the game to a basic level to the point where a story dungeon is unplayable then maybe this isnt the game for you. They gut and homogenise enough systems and encounters and people still whine.

[JudgeRAW]

I think too many of you supposed "casual" players just don't like the idea you might die in a video game. Dying happens, wipes happen and then you try again, thats it. This fight doesn't have anything mechanically we haven't seen a million times before. How did you all deal with things like Barbariccia which as a similar mechanic? You died, you were rezzed or you wiped and you start over and then you win, eventually. You don't have to be any sort of god-gamer to beat this fight, you just need some perseverance. If thats not enough to get you to go again then maybe you really should quit.

[Hanzz96]

Are people really this upset when they die in a video game?

[Bryson]

Are people really this upset when they die in a video game?

yeah a lot of na casuals hate how wiping is even functionally possible. If it takes more than a pull, it's "for sweats." That's how reductive this community can be. Just look at the people crying over a literal dungeon lol