So as I thought. Basically, they are transforming it into pre-made only, discord only content and everyone else can sit and twist. Good to know. I am never entering OC again.Well, with 7.3 they also want to make sure entering the tower doesn't overlap with a CE being active, so there is a chance people might give it a try more spontaenously. But yeah, considering people actually call it "sniping" when someone just tries to Do The Thing and doesn't have a schedule reliable enough to sign up at some discord run, I am certainly hesitant of trying to get in. I don't want to get flamed into oblivion, killed with tank busters or whatever just because my health issues makes it really hard to sign up to stuff. I did this once for a newbie BA run and almost had to cancel and ruin stuff for everyone else.![]()
On the other hand, if premade groups can get in more reliably and avoid randoms signing up with that new system, maybe going on spontaenously is going to be more inviting again. When everyone can stay in their "lane" so to speak.
Edit: Yes, PF exists, and I guess I'll have to try this, but getting 24 people for Chaotic to stay in a group long enough for it to fill up was already hard a few days after its release. So, sorry if I might be a bit sceptical of how well this is going to work with twice the number of people. Week 1 or 2 after the changes maybe but afterwards...?
"The worst foe lies within the self."



I need to stress that this is just me voicing concerns and my own grim predictions. I have no clue if this is actually going to turn out this way. Maybe there are also going to be a lot of PF parties with 24 or 38 players or so queueing anyway and counting on randoms to join? Which would give me more opportunities, same as e.g. people with kids, wonky work shifts etc. It's really hard to say how things might turn out at the moment.
@Saraide: Being able to join a discord and being able to join an organized group at (date) and (time) with specific roles set etc. and then be there on time and all are two very different kind of things. You equating both like this tells me you never had any irl issues interfering with your gaming. Good for you! But not everyone is in this position.
Last edited by Minali; 07-02-2025 at 09:31 PM.
Not they dont, you literally can open a PF, build the Group and go in, no "pre made discord only group" and sorry aber if its too much to open a Party in the Partyfinder then idk

I mean, if you cant even read and understand what's being discussed in this thread, how do you expect to pf up and use shout chat to coordinate 48 effectively.
You don't even do current extreme trials, this is way harder than that. Its not a wipe and pull again situation, its a wipe and try again in 60 minutes situation.
This is simply not content for casuals. Its content for people who are willing to try something hard and do the actual effort.
I'd agree this is precisely what is wrong with it.I mean, if you cant even read and understand what's being discussed in this thread, how do you expect to pf up and use shout chat to coordinate 48 effectively.
You don't even do current extreme trials, this is way harder than that. Its not a wipe and pull again situation, its a wipe and try again in 60 minutes situation.
This is simply not content for casuals. Its content for people who are willing to try something hard and do the actual effort.
Oooo, look at you thinking you're going to get all snippy with me. I ain't the one, honey.I mean, if you cant even read and understand what's being discussed in this thread, how do you expect to pf up and use shout chat to coordinate 48 effectively.
You don't even do current extreme trials, this is way harder than that. Its not a wipe and pull again situation, its a wipe and try again in 60 minutes situation.
This is simply not content for casuals. Its content for people who are willing to try something hard and do the actual effort.
"The worst foe lies within the self."

FT isn't hard.. my reclears are full of casuals. You're out of touch.I mean, if you cant even read and understand what's being discussed in this thread, how do you expect to pf up and use shout chat to coordinate 48 effectively.
You don't even do current extreme trials, this is way harder than that. Its not a wipe and pull again situation, its a wipe and try again in 60 minutes situation.
This is simply not content for casuals. Its content for people who are willing to try something hard and do the actual effort.

Its not as hard as it is inconvenient and punishing.
I doubt your casuals makes zero effort to learn the content before stepping in your run, therefore not casuals and the average people usually don't have the luxury of having 99 percentile peoples helping them clear stuff.
But my hat's off to you for helping out the community.

casuals is just a wide poool. Not every casual is lazy and entitled.Its not as hard as it is inconvenient and punishing.
I doubt your casuals makes zero effort to learn the content before stepping in your run, therefore not casuals and the average people usually don't have the luxury of having 99 percentile peoples helping them clear stuff.
But my hat's off to you for helping out the community.
also what does percentiles have to do with FT lol? the dps checks are basically non existent. FT is at best, extreme difficulty. .the only obnoxious part was getting all 6 parties in the same instance.
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