Forked Tower premade patch coming before 7.3

[Saraide]

So, is this them pretty much catering to the hardcore players completely and leaving randoms in the dust, or is this making it so folks can all join premades easier? Trying to see if they are basically telling casuals to stay the F out of OC and Forked Tower and this is now solely for premade discord groups.

Can casual players not join discord?

[DynnDiablos]

Can casual players not join discord?

If your content is designed to where you can only access it and be successful via an outside app, the content shouldn't exist to begin with. Anyone paying for a sub, should be able to access all content in-game via the in-game systems successfully. What SE is doing is catering to one sect of the playerbase and making it very clear, everyone else is not a priority and the content they've added into a game they've paid for is not accessible unless they want to utilize outside applications.

[Saraide]

If your content is designed to where you can only access it and be successful via an outside app, the content shouldn't exist to begin with. Anyone paying for a sub, should be able to access all content in-game via the in-game systems successfully. What SE is doing is catering to one sect of the playerbase and making it very clear, everyone else is not a priority and the content they've added into a game they've paid for is not accessible unless they want to utilize outside applications.

Casuals are on discord just as much as raiders are tho. Cranky people arent there because they have trouble interacting with other people without having a meltdown but casuals and raiders are there just fine. It's just a vastly superior tool for organization of large amounts of people than PF could ever hope to be.

I need to stress that this is just me voicing concerns and my own grim predictions. I have no clue if this is actually going to turn out this way. Maybe there are also going to be a lot of PF parties with 24 or 38 players or so queueing anyway and counting on randoms to join? Which would give me more opportunities, same as e.g. people with kids, wonky work shifts etc. It's really hard to say how things might turn out at the moment.

@Saraide: Being able to join a discord and being able to join an organized group at (date) and (time) with specific roles set etc. are two very different kind of things. You equating both like this tells me you never had any irl issues interfering with your gaming. Good for you! But not everyone is in this position.

I had irl issues interfering with my gaming, that doesnt change the fact that you can join organized groups no problem. Especially with it being now much more stable and no longer needing to spend potentially hours to try and get into the same instance. Sure, you wont have time for literally every single FT group in existence, that's the reality of having a job. But this change lays out a good foundation to content longevity which is the actual thing busy people need: You wont be able to ride the initial wave therefore you need to content to stick around and find groups at a later date. Making it less of a hassle to get into FT as organized group helps with that.

[Jeeqbit]

If your content is designed to where you can only access it and be successful via an outside app, the content shouldn't exist to begin with.

Doubt this is the first MMO like that. Discord is way less annoying than Teamspeak or Ventrilo was. And you can run it in a browser if you don't want to download it yet still get the full experience.

Trying to see if they are basically telling casuals to stay the F out of OC and Forked Tower and this is now solely for premade discord groups.

FT groups will enter as an alliance. They will then try to get a fresh instance (which is almost guaranteed if you queue with 48) due to weather time being shortened for fresh instances. In a fresh instance, randoms are unlikely to be in there yet to want FT, so randoms will likely never see these organized FT groups. Thus, it will separate randoms from organized even more.

As others said, being able to recruit in PF without discord for a few hours will become possible, arguably making it a bit more realistic without discord.