I'd usually ignore the blatant generalizations, but I feel the need to say that as long as people are trying, I'm more than willing to help. But if someone uses Cure I at level 100, and don't stop after being told that's bad, that is very much a them problem, and they deserve ridicule. Trying is key in general.

That's why the snipers in FT suck. They don't try to actually put in the effort in organizing and spreadsheeting and pulling their weight.

There's plenty of people in this thread who think not trying is an okay position to have, and it's not while you're playing with others. Literally pressing 1 button with 100% GCD uptime would be better than some of the level 100s I see with like 50% downtime. Not doing anything for half the time is griefing and wasting people's time.

So yeah, I will argue that those people do not need to be catered to. Those who wanna try will try. But for those who keep using the game's mediore but passable explanations as an excuse, we should force a mandatory UI-adjustment prompt early on. Many bad players flail around not reading debuffs and casts but instead of asking how to increase their visibility, they just continue to be a liability.

That said, Strayborough was okay. It's just a really fun dungeon.