Please Share Updates on 8.0 Job Design

[Alahard]

You're fighting a losing battle there, the game is never gonna be like it used to be. There are Shadowbringer, Endwalker and Dawntrail generation of players who are used to everything being dumbed down. You bring it back to HW/SB levels and then the massive FFXIV decline will really start happening.

They crossed the south bank of the Rubicon on Shadowbringers when they decided to butcher everything down the way they did.

A little late to this response, but

1) WoW did a lot of simplification. Then they went back to more complicated/unique designed, and everyone preferred it that way.
2) We have at least 4 jobs a role. You can make 1 hard, 2 in the middle, and keep one dumb. You don't need to go to 10/10 difficulty for every job.

Edit ->

This is the same issue I saw in the early healerstrike thread. Basically 2 groups formed -> 1) we want more engaging gameplay for x reason , and 2) I dont want healers to be harder for x reason

Its like you had to be on one side or the other. Guys, we have 4 of them. You can make at least 1 of them satisfy the first group.
I know im way oversimplifying the healer thread, but it's not all or nothing. We can have a healer do more than glare spam, and have another only glare spam.