Hamlet defense feedback from a top 20 provisioner: Critical problems and solutions

[Quesse]

He's talking about real life fatigue, not game fatigue, which indeed does not exist in its original form anymore. there is still some upper limit on the number of items you can harvest from gathering points in a day, but that's only there as an RMT countermeasure. No other means of gaining EXP is capped or limited in any way.

That is not true.

Fatigue directly limits XP gain due to no xp being given when gathering is unsuccessful. In essence it is the same fatigue as DoW/DoM had but just implemented differently. Your xp gain decreases over time and eventually reaches zero. It is the same outcome.

If it was solely and RMT measure then you would still be able to complete the gathering action and gain XP but the item would simply break. That is not the case.

[TheVedis]

That is not true.

Fatigue directly limits XP gain due to no xp being given when gathering is unsuccessful. In essence it is the same fatigue as DoW/DoM had but just implemented differently. Your xp gain decreases over time and eventually reaches zero. It is the same outcome.

If it was solely and RMT measure then you would still be able to complete the gathering action and gain XP but the item would simply break. That is not the case.

wait
no exp is given when you dont gather succesfuly?

i thinks you have no idea what fatigue is then, cuz it sure as hell still gives exp

[Delsus]

That is not true.

Fatigue directly limits XP gain due to no xp being given when gathering is unsuccessful. In essence it is the same fatigue as DoW/DoM had but just implemented differently. Your xp gain decreases over time and eventually reaches zero. It is the same outcome.

If it was solely and RMT measure then you would still be able to complete the gathering action and gain XP but the item would simply break. That is not the case.

Unsuccessful gathers give half exp of a successful one, so if you are leveling and hit gathering fategue you will level half as fast, also the fategue we did have was influanced by exp, if it was the same fategue you would not beable to get the masses of exp from gathering leves, this is based on how much you gather in one day, not exp based.

[TheVedis]

Unsuccessful gathers give half exp of a successful one, so if you are leveling and hit gathering fategue you will level half as fast, also the fategue we did have was influanced by exp, if it was the same fategue you would not beable to get the masses of exp from gathering leves, this is based on how much you gather in one day, not exp based.

gathering fatigue has ALWAYS been based off how much you gather and not exp

[Delsus]

gathering fatigue has ALWAYS been based off how much you gather and not exp

I know, but the post I quoted was saying it was the same as DoW/M fatigue, I was just pointing out the flaw in that thought I am actually for gathering fatigue as a measure to prevent RMT knowing compromises must be made, and legitimate players will have to be affected.

Personally I have never hit gathering fatigue, so it doesn't really affect me just yet.

[TheVedis]

I know, but the post I quoted was saying it was the same as DoW/M fatigue, I was just pointing out the flaw in that thought I am actually for gathering fatigue as a measure to prevent RMT knowing compromises must be made, and legitimate players will have to be affected.

Personally I have never hit gathering fatigue, so it doesn't really affect me just yet.

actualy, the fatigue they got, we also got too, and it wasnt technicaly called fatigue, but surplus

[Delsus]

actualy, the fatigue they got, we also got too, and it wasnt technicaly called fatigue, but surplus

I know everyone got it, but it was mainly the DoW/M that voiced complaints, and it was officially called fatigue, we just called it surplus, because it said we gained surplus exp.

From the 1.18 patch notes:

[dev1120] The fatigue system and surplus points have been abolished.
Any surplus points accumulated before the patch will be lost.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...tch-1.18-Notes