Hamlet defense feedback from a top 20 provisioner: Critical problems and solutions

[Alhanelem]

It was the first cycle of hamlet, of course everyone is going to rush and turn in for the top 20s. It will dies down especially when another two hamlets are coming.

The problem is the huge contribution barely got the hamlet defense to level 2, and level 2 won't be the highest after some patching. In other words, with the current setup and a whole bunch of people with no life contributing for hours on end, you STILL wont have much of a chance to get the good rewards.

[Airget]

I agree with the op, I was mining for 6hrs today and only got 55k points, that only got me to 15th, and about 2hrs later I was down to 20th, the top on Gungnir at my last check had 400k points now if that was from mining (because I know the numbers for that one) that would be over 40 stacks of kidney ores, in the time from them accepting items to when I handed mine in that must have been someone who was getting items all day (not sure how its possible) or a bot.

Right now this system is enouraging botting with this competition, so we don't have to stay at our screens all day imagine this to a linkshell because I can "hmm I guess I'm going to try and get in the top 20" "lmao the only way you will do that is with a bot running 24/7" "I can't believe that" starts mining for 6hrs and gets 60k points "omg how has the top guy got 400k points" "prolly a bot like I said".

It will need looking into or as said before people will just use it to get anima and not as it is intended, I know the thought behind this, if everyone wants to get in the top 20 we will be getting the higher lvls, but if this involves 12-20hrs of gathering and crafting and people still arent top 20, they will give up and be asking what the point is.

I personally didn't bot, my 4th place value came from lucky HQs synths and gathering a lot of +1 spruce branches, since +1s grant 10x reward. I was hoping to see if 1-3 did anything special but seeing as it doesn't I'll prolly just aim for top 20 while gathering during the week and then turning it all in one big haul before a weekend fight starts since that's when I can do the maximum amount of hamlets.

[Duuude007]

I was in the top 20 on Durandal as well, and our LS was regularly pulling off 40k scores out of a theoretical 45k cap at Hamlet Level 2.
Out of 19 of these wins, the chest dropped nothing but dark matter and the occasional ixali currency. For every LS run. the type of chest was random, we saw bronze silver and gold on occasion, but the consistency of the rewards from chests was blatantly lopsided, in that Chest rewards netted at the top available tier was dark matter and a small amout of presently worthless beastmen crrency... but completing Hamlet Defense with under 15k points score rather consistently rewards a "consolation prize": Magicked Prism (Indigo Star).

My wager is that they have a chest loot list in mind for people in the following tiers:

Tier 0 Under 15k-----chance at Indigo star
Tier 1 15k-30k-------?
Tier 2 30k-45k-------?
Tier 3 45k-60k etc etc

The problem is, they may not have anticipated that before May 10th (when Aleport and Gold Bazaar go live), that people would be regularly exceeding tier 1 and tier 2, so the loot list for the chest was coded to give generic Ixali currency and dark matter, and the worthwhile gear would be added in 1.22a .

If I am wrong on this, I will likely not be participating as often, nor I wager, will a large majority of the server populations.

TL;DR -- If the only way to get anything but dark matter from the chests is to perform poorly, where is the motivation for groups to keep going at it, especially if they aren't in the top 20?

Goddess, I hope they fix this soon.

[Aion]

aside from the rewards, is it fun?hadnt chance to try it

[Alise]

Only of my concerned and worried is that our server (Excalibur) not even have supply at rank 2 in the first season.
Now a lot of people already lose interest, I doubt that we will ever get rank-2 supply later on. I think SE demand point too high.

[Alhanelem]

aside from the rewards, is it fun?hadnt chance to try it

Yes, it is. I like the whole idea behind it, especially DoL/DoH having a function in a party.

[PeaceWalker]

I don't have enough gathering experience, but I thought that fatigue was out of the game. Why do people still say there is? and if it is there, what is its effect?

If you don't mind, can you tell me if the mats required for the supply and battle phases are tradeable? And what kind of items are gathered/crafted during battle?

And how would you know your current standing?

Sorry for all the questions ^^;

[Eruantien]

I think the score shouldn't be based on top 20 but just the amount of points you scored in the supply phase. so if you don't have time you at least get some benefit.

I don't have enough gathering experience, but I thought that fatigue was out of the game. Why do people still say there is? and if it is there, what is its effect?

and no its not out of the game. once you hit it you start not being able to gather items.

[PeaceWalker]

I think the score shouldn't be based on top 20 but just the amount of points you scored in the supply phase. so if you don't have time you at least get some benefit.




and no its not out of the game. once you hit it you start not being able to gather items.

Thanks for the reply. Are you saying that you will not be able to log/mine any item at all? or just get useless items?

[Takeshi_Eiketsu]

I agree with OP...