Hamlet defense feedback from a top 20 provisioner: Critical problems and solutions

[TheVedis]

Hi All,

Thanks to Reinheart, it looks like the Dev Team *might* be looking into a Point System for Hamlet Defense. {Yes, please.}

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But as Signakan posted, I don't agree with them developing *even more* difference / loot pools(?) between Rank 1 and Rank 20.

That *isn't* the problem: It's the horrible difference between making the Top 20 and *not* making it (the majority of the server), and how there's no incentive to even try Hamlet Defense unless you make it in the Top 20.

Here's to hoping we get some real, meaningful changes for the better, because I really enjoy Hamlet Defense (from an idea point of view).

actualy i think you no longer understand the problem

its been proven how to get drops and drop rate increases out of the chest


the top 20 and the chest drops have NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER

the top 20 get a unique set of drops as compared to the group when opening the chest(based ons core)

so people not in the top 20 have plenty of incewntive to go, since they can still get those chest drops. half the drops that can come from the top 20, people not in it wont want anyway(especialy the non gather/crafty types who cant use any of them)

as more players figure out how tro boost scores, you are seeing less complaint about this, time to pay attention and get with the times

[viion]

Content for Bots!

I have no desire to take part in Hamlets, I find it a complete wank system, a lot different than I expected it to be when they first mentioned it. I will hand in enough items for 100 anima, then go back when I hit 6 anima XD

[TheVedis]

What i foresee happening is groups will gather up tens of millions of points in turnins so that they can guarentee the hamlet will be at the level they want it at without any outside help

and when they do, they wil;l all be top 20 and itl be the week they get everything they want when they do it...

[syntaxlies]

What i foresee happening is groups will gather up tens of millions of points in turnins so that they can guarentee the hamlet will be at the level they want it at without any outside help

and when they do, they wil;l all be top 20 and itl be the week they get everything they want when they do it...

are the turn ins always the same. If i was gonna do it i would harvest for a few weeks and then turn in, like you said to try and lock a spot. Also ill wait till the new hamlets are in so i don't have to turn in as much(hope theres still enough to hit lvl 2 though).

everyone loves uldah, i have a feeling the hamlet there will be the only one people do after its ready.

[Matsume]

are the turn ins always the same. If i was gonna do it i would harvest for a few weeks and then turn in, like you said to try and lock a spot. Also ill wait till the new hamlets are in so i don't have to turn in as much(hope theres still enough to hit lvl 2 though).

everyone loves uldah, i have a feeling the hamlet there will be the only one people do after its ready.

Yes the items to turn in are all the same. And your strategy is indeed what I and others have conceded to bein the best.

[syntaxlies]

Yes the items to turn in are all the same. And your strategy is indeed what I and others have conceded to bein the best.

with everyone doing it itll be like ebay where everyone waits till the last second to turn in,lol.

[Matsume]

with everyone doing it itll be like ebay where everyone waits till the last second to turn in,lol.

Damn price snipers...

[TheVedis]

are the turn ins always the same. If i was gonna do it i would harvest for a few weeks and then turn in, like you said to try and lock a spot. Also ill wait till the new hamlets are in so i don't have to turn in as much(hope theres still enough to hit lvl 2 though).

everyone loves uldah, i have a feeling the hamlet there will be the only one people do after its ready.

yep always same so you can save up

[Arcell]

With the release of Hamlet Defense in more zones, it'll be easier to get into the Top 20. However I think it'll become harder for a particular Hamlet to get its Supply Rating up, due to the distribution of players contributing items.

However, as Thevedis mentioned, people can stockpile items and get themselves into the top 20 and the Supply Rating up regardless of what other people do. I mean I know on Balmung one person alone contributed more than 1.4 mil points on the last run. However, most other players didn't come anywhere close to them.

Another issue to consider, most people have been obsessed with beating Garuda since 1.22 has come out so that may be another variable to consider.

[Tsuuga]

Stockpiling is still a silly amount of work - and it's basically a wager that you won't have a family emergency or internet outage. Every X supply points should just give you an inferno lantern-equivalent.