Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
Which circles back to the original problem the so called “casuals” side of this discussion never has an answer for

If this content isn’t done by discords it’s done by nobody. Which is ultimately square enix’s awful design for the entry conditions

Like short of square completely redesigning it what do you want the discords to do? Anyone feel free to chime in here, what do you want the discords to do? They are filling a niche that makes this content possible. If your answer is “it shouldn’t need discord” then congrats your problem isn’t with the discords it’s with square.

Every person who joins in place of an organised discord participant lowers chance of success. As has been shown OP as an example died because they didn’t know a mechanic and almost killed others by blowing up traps. What else can the discords do? If you don’t want deal with them at all then again the problem is square.

Like people here acting like the discords are evil and the problem I have no idea how you want to solve this content
The content itself should not exist in its current iteration. Remove it from the instance and make it like DRS. All these people are asking from the discords is that the discords treat them like fellow players. Not like garbage they can TK at the start of the run and never revive. Discord groups wouldnt even have the reputation of being so evil if this behaviour didnt happen in the first place.

Yes its frustrating. Yes we all know Square is to blame. But telling randoms to not join and threaten them to not be revived and ignored isnt helping anyone. Why dont the discord groups try to make the best of the situation instead if it happens? Why do they immediately go hostile and all "you dont belong here"?