Quote Originally Posted by Neclord View Post
A kill party in PF is for people looking to get their first clear. Anyone can join those. It's not a reclear party.

This is exactly the point. Unlike PF, there are no protections for players and organisers trying to do serious runs of Forked Tower. 48 people are entirely reliant on the manners and courtesy of the other players populating the instance. These players would never naturally enter the tower without these organised groups being there and it is in nobody's interest for them to disrupt the run.

If you went into the middle of an open public field with a picnic basket and the 20 or so people playing a game of football on that field that you are now wedged between approached you and politely asked you to leave, would they be rude? Would you be discourteous? The field is open and accessible to the public, after all. You have just as much a right to be there as they do - if they have a problem they should just take it up with the local authority.
This is my point the content is designed differently that's why I wasn't sure why you brought it up. Forked tower is designed so that random players can join in therefore it's not discourteous to just play the game.

In your analogy you wouldn't be someone with a picnic basket you'd also be a football player you just wouldn't be in the team already playing that for some reason got together beforehand to play in a public event however if this game was advertised as a public game of football where anyone could come join in then the players already there would be really rude to exclude people on the basis they didn't plan with them beforehand and yes that should be taken up with the local authority who here would be Square Enix (hence suggestions of reporting this anti community behaviour).

You can try to make out like level 100 players with access to OC and who earn access to forked tower have no clue what they're doing or how to play this content all you like but Square designed this content this way for a reason so unless they change that it's how it is.