Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
But that’s the point I’m making. The relics are useless in their current state and won’t be updated for ages. Why do you need them now? Grind them at your own pace when you feel like doing OC or Fates. If you never feel like doing the content that drops relic materials then you just don’t get the relic. That’s how every relic except EW worked
Pretty sure most people do the relic for
a) glamor
b) the end of the expansion when it can become BiS.

As for the "grind at your own pace": with overworld Fates that is not a problem but CE's will be very difficult to handle once the zones are starved of players. I already had a wipe on cloister demon because the map was nearly empty and we were too few to handle the sigil chain mechanic.

So yeah: objectively, the best and most comfortable time to do OC is now.

Quote Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi View Post
- Perfecting a Critical Engagement, that is, not dying or gaining any Vul stacks, guarantees a Demiatma drop
Funnily enough, I thought about something like that myself while doing CEs and gradually getting better at them.
It would be neat, if good play was actually rewarded.

I also think your idea with the trade-able resource (depending on how we get said resource) would make for a nice extreme bad-luck protection and fix the most glaring issue with the Demiatma farming.

Though I do not understand: what is your issue with tanks?

Quote Originally Posted by Wired-Lain View Post
It wouldn't be nearly as bad if I could level jobs in here so I could be at least somewhat productive but for some reason they decided no to that.
I guess they did that to de-couple your output from the in-zone leveling system. One of my biggest complaints about Eureka (not sure on Bozja) was that your contribution was actually useless until you had the level. You literally did 2 digit damage to a high level mob. Like ... don't even bother attacking, can just AFK and it makes no difference.

So for a very large portion of the time in there, you just felt like baggage that got dragged around by other players. Not fun.