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    Quote Originally Posted by Misutoraru View Post
    Overall I don’t mind the “ARR” pace of slow grind, but the RNG base. Some kind of “guarantee” would be great like EX farm, or at least the more FATE/CE and not getting a drop, the increase chance of drop (eventually 100%) and reset once a drop happen would be appreciated.
    And how is a slow grind with a more reliable drop rate less of a thing for people with enough free time? You will still have to apply about the same time to grind the atmas, only in a more consistent manner.

    If you want a more consistent grind, by all means, so do I. Feels better if you can measure the progress reliably and every bit contributes.

    But stop pretending this is some way of SE ignoring the casual player when a large of the content caters specifically to them. Even if that content is just boring (which, frankly, it mostly is).

    Not that the atmas came without warning and, even then, it's still far more lenient as the atma step is one and done that moves then to 1.5k tomestone buys (which is now very easy to repeatedly grind for).
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    Last edited by BokoToloko; 05-29-2025 at 01:35 AM.

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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BokoToloko View Post
    And how is a slow grind with a more reliable drop rate less of a thing for people with enough free time? You will still have to apply about the same time to grind the atmas, only in a more consistent manner.

    If you want a more consistent grind, by all means, so do I. Feels better if you can measure the progress reliably and every bit contributes.

    But stop pretending this is some way of SE ignoring the casual player when a large of the content caters specifically to them. Even if that content is just boring (which, frankly, it mostly is).

    Not that the atmas came without warning and, even then, it's still far more lenient as the atma step is one and done that moves then to 1.5k tomestone buys (which is now very easy to repeatedly grind for).
    I am completely lose. I dont know how you get that "But stop pretending this is some way of SE ignoring the casual player when a large of the content caters specifically to them" notion from.

    I was saying SE seem to go from one end to another end. ARR/HW grind was like this, pray the RNG god on your side. Then EW come that give out Relic from free.

    I believe the best would be a middle ground. Keep the RNG if that's players want but have a "progress" on the RNG so the "unlucky" players at least know they will reach it at somepoint. Just like the EX trial mount drop, you either get lucky or you know every EX you beat you are one step closer to the goal.

    Grind might still be long for unlucky one but having able to see a progress will always be less frustrating than praying RNG not knowing when it will happen
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