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    RenegadeInferno's Avatar
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    Reneyus Stormtreader
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    I haven't got to play it yet. However...

    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    I am also not a fan of relic weapons reverting back to the Heavensward grind-a-thon.
    Disagree, more of this please. Make people work for relics. They're meant to be a status symbol or can at least be revered as such by the playerbase.
    The HW grind was one of the best for relics that we have ever had.

    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    While the EW ones were ridiculously easy
    This can get in the bin, I never want to see tome weapons masquerading as relics ever again.
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    Shai Rae
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    I don't participate in content that doesn't respect my time and wants to waste it just to make something protracted. The relics are hideous anyway nor will they have any real ilevel advantage, so I am happy to skip along with all of Occult Crescent, which has nothing gear-wise, mount-wise, hair-wise or minion-wise I'd ever want.
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    Flan Vongola
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I enjoy the content very much. I missed it in Endwalker and I dont want to miss it again.
    Yes sure, it's not any different from FATE farming, yet it's nice to explore a new map with a new progression system tying the relic in and outside of OC is a great choice, too.

    Update:

    Good:

    - Extra chests on the map are a nice touch. Loot has been okay-ish. I've looted mounts, glamour, materia. It’s fun spotting them occasionally.
    - PJ buffs last 30 minutes and feel useful.
    - Map design and exploration are great. The aesthetics are a step up.
    - The story starts off like an adventure and grabbed my attention. Honestly, I expected something similar for DW into, but alas... lol
    - The mount speed scroll is a great way to reach CEs faster. I can only recommend saving 3k tokens.
    - Mounts and Aetherytes are not progression locked.

    Neutral:

    - Challenge log looks like a weekly, but it’s easy to forget.
    - Why are the potions so expensive? You can find loot to sell for Gil, though you have to scavenge for chests first and be lucky.

    Suggestions:

    - CE's pop back to back and it can get exhausting. In Eureka, you'd trigger them by killing monsters and in Bozja you'd need to complete normal FATE's to trigger the CE.
    - FATE's are badly optimized and sync to late. They're completed within seconds.
    - There's nothing to do between CEs. Bunny/pot FATEs don’t really fill the gap. The fast CE spawns risk losing your pot.
    - No daily or weekly quests tied to this content, which is a missed opportunity.
    - Mob aggro range seems very short. Bug?
    - Relic RNG isn’t the worst (personally), but it feels unrewarding for many. The quest design needs a serious refresh.
    - Phantom skills aren’t customizable. Would love to pick my own roster like in Bozja. It would be a nice incentive to maximize all phantom job.
    - Bring back solo CEs. They were fun to watch and do. No idea why they didn’t return.
    - I’d love to see dynamic open field raids. Not FATEs per se, but a system akin FATEs that require coordination. Think multiple objectives across the map that need to be cleared simultaneously to weaken or unlock a main boss. GW2 handles this style really well.
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    Last edited by xbahax92; 05-29-2025 at 02:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeInferno View Post
    I haven't got to play it yet. However...



    Disagree, more of this please. Make people work for relics. They're meant to be a status symbol or can at least be revered as such by the playerbase.
    The HW grind was one of the best for relics that we have ever had.



    This can get in the bin, I never want to see tome weapons masquerading as relics ever again.
    no relic are crap I started with my friend this morning and he now have 4 while I am half way done the first one like when is this ok? where did the drop rate get this shitty
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeInferno View Post
    This can get in the bin, I never want to see tome weapons masquerading as relics ever again.
    Umm, I hate to break it to you but once you finish your first relic it becomes the exact same 1,500 tome system from EW.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeInferno View Post
    I haven't got to play it yet. However...



    Disagree, more of this please. Make people work for relics. They're meant to be a status symbol or can at least be revered as such by the playerbase.
    The HW grind was one of the best for relics that we have ever had.
    Relics are not a status symbol by any means lmao. They are not hard to get just a timesink, should I be impressed you are unemployed with all the time in the world and get a relic before me cuz of it?

    Relics ARE NOT like ultimate weapons or such which actually take effort and not just time to get.
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeInferno View Post
    Disagree, more of this please. Make people work for relics. They're meant to be a status symbol or can at least be revered as such by the playerbase.
    The HW grind was one of the best for relics that we have ever had.
    Respectfully disagree. What a "relic" is in an MMO has been watered down. Relics would last an entire expansion (at least) and be head and shoulders above everything else. They could be built upon from one expansion to the next. Or they had some use even outside the expansion they were earned in due to special effects (like the rez stick in EQ1 for clerics).

    Relics in this game have always been...well... not relics. We shouldn't "earn" a relic just to have it gathering dust a month or so later.
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    Jessa Marko
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    Respectfully disagree. What a "relic" is in an MMO has been watered down. Relics would last an entire expansion (at least) and be head and shoulders above everything else. They could be built upon from one expansion to the next. Or they had some use even outside the expansion they were earned in due to special effects (like the rez stick in EQ1 for clerics).

    Relics in this game have always been...well... not relics. We shouldn't "earn" a relic just to have it gathering dust a month or so later.
    Relics have been reduced to another annoyance in an overloaded inventory system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeInferno View Post
    Disagree, more of this please. Make people work for relics. They're meant to be a status symbol or can at least be revered as such by the playerbase.
    The HW grind was one of the best for relics that we have ever had.
    No one is doing relics as a status symbol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbyssKupo View Post
    No one is doing relics as a status symbol.
    In fairness, I think that's his point. Relics are so easy to obtain as to be expected, not respected.
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