Cosmic Exploration is Bad

[Supersnow845]

Except there is almost nobody here going “oh my god shut up the content is perfect” it’s people puzzled that this person is struggling so hard with easy missions and trying to offer him help but instead he just screams we are all mean and unhelpful

Almost nobody is denying that GP regenerates too slow, gatherers achieve cosmic points too slowly relative to the crafters who are easier and more AFK’able, aetherial reduction is too slow on missions that have a time limit, some elements of gear progression are pointlessly opaque.

Cosmic has its fair share of problems that disproportionately affect the gatherers but there is a difference between complaining about them and failing D ranks at level 97 and declaring the content is the worst thing ever when you won’t even explain why you are failing D ranks at 97

[PotatoePet]

The perception comes from the fact that you can start doing Cosmic Explorations at level 10. I'm a level 97 fisher, the minimum iLvl for gear for D rank stuff is 595 or something like that... when I was in my lvl 90 script gear, I wasn't catching anything. When I bought the gear from the Cosmic Explorations vendor, I then started to catch stuff, but I was still failing more than succeeding.

This is a very specific problem for gatherers. Crafters are having the easiest time in the world because they can use macros and they don't actually have to try or rely on RNG like gatherers, specifically fishers, do. Cosmic Explorations was made for crafters, not gatherers, who were a forgotten afterthought.

And again, this isn't just my opinion that Cosmic Explorations is bad for gatherers, it's the opinion of a lot of people, including hardcore players like Mr. Happy and others.

Yea, like I said: The time limit on gatherer missions is a bit too much imho. (They could basically remove that time limit from all D - B missions where the goal isn't to get gold for completion within a certain time)

Especially because GP is such a limited resource when doing gatherer in Cosmic. Points are also not enough. If points were more, failing from time to time would be fine.

Fisher is hard and RNG heavy just like outside of cosmic. I really think they should add one of two things:
- A place to rest to refill GP faster
- Or: Special cordials only useable in Cosmic which fill 800GP can only be used in cosmic and are either given at the start of missions or cheaply available for cosmo credits.

[Ekymus]

Stat point for stat point the level 97 gear you can buy from the cosmic merchant is weaker than the Level 90 purple scrip gear. So if you bought the 97 gear and saw a modest improvement then it’s simply a placebo affect as you actually made your gear weaker.

This is a hat I’m trying to explain to you. You aren’t listening to people who are saying you are doing something wrong. I wasn’t trying to insult you I was trying to help you. Just because content is levelling doesn’t mean it has to be brainless. Cosmic fishing is a puzzle you solve with your kit, you don’t just outgear it. Even with pentamelded BIS B rank fishing still requires you to “play the puzzle”, you can’t just ignore it with stats.

If you tell us what is going wrong, like “I’m constantly hooking the wrong fish” or “I don’t have the GP to sustain patience 2 like I feel like this mission is asking me to do” we can offer you solutions. I’ve simulated basically all the D C and B rank missions with gear from the mid 90’s and I don’t struggle with them. I’m trying to figure out what you are struggling with so I can help you

Because again pointing to me happy as an example of “see everyone is complaining” is near worthless when Mr happy is complaining about things like GP not restoring between missions, not having something in your kit that you are or aren’t using and declaring the content is terrible because of it

Cool, then tell me, why do they lock other content away behind iLvl? Sure, in general, higher iLvl gear has better stats, but from personal experience in Cosmic Explorations, I can tell you that iLvl actually matters in Cosmic Explorations. With out the right iLvl, I was not getting any success. With the right iLvl, I would be able to succeed maybe 1 out of 5 attempts. So, you are wrong and your continued assumption that the problem must be me and not the content is really starting to piss me off.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about and are clearly here to just white knight for the content because you can't fathom that this content might actually just be bad.

And then you try to cover your insults with random comments like "I'm just trying to help". Please, go f*ck yourself and take your disingenuous "help" with you. You're just here to try and feel superior, making comments like, "this is all super easy content", or "it's only midcore content".

You have made up your mind that Cosmic Explorations is perfect and you won't tolerate anyone calling it out as bad. Just go away.

[Ekymus]

Except there is almost nobody here going “oh my god shut up the content is perfect” it’s people puzzled that this person is struggling so hard with easy missions and trying to offer him help but instead he just screams we are all mean and unhelpful

Almost nobody is denying that GP regenerates too slow, gatherers achieve cosmic points too slowly relative to the crafters who are easier and more AFK’able, aetherial reduction is too slow on missions that have a time limit, some elements of gear progression are pointlessly opaque.

Cosmic has its fair share of problems that disproportionately affect the gatherers but there is a difference between complaining about them and failing D ranks at level 97 and declaring the content is the worst thing ever when you won’t even explain why you are failing D ranks at 97

You are literally ignoring the complaints and pretending like it's just fine and there are no problems with Cosmic Explorations.

[Ekymus]

Yea, like I said: The time limit on gatherer missions is a bit too much imho. (They could basically remove that time limit from all D - B missions where the goal isn't to get gold for completion within a certain time)

Especially because GP is such a limited resource when doing gatherer in Cosmic. Points are also not enough. If points were more, failing from time to time would be fine.

Fisher is hard and RNG heavy just like outside of cosmic. I really think they should add one of two things:
- A place to rest to refill GP faster
- Or: Special cordials only useable in Cosmic which fill 800GP can only be used in cosmic and are either given at the start of missions or cheaply available for cosmo credits.

Those would help for sure, especially removing the timers. And I appreciate that you acknowledge that fishing is extremely dependent on RNG, unlike most other gatherers and crafters.

[Fawkes]

I get more XP from Ocean Fishing, but I haven't been able to get into an Ocean Fishing group in 6 months.

The ocean fishing boat will always leave at 15 minutes past the hour (every other hour) regardless of how many people queue. If not enough people are queuing to fill a boat you'll end up waiting until then.

[Supersnow845]

I can tell you that iLvl actually matters in Cosmic Explorations. With out the right iLvl, I was not getting any success. With the right iLvl, I would be able to succeed maybe 1 out of 5 attempts. So, you are wrong and your continued assumption that the problem must be me and not the content is really starting to piss me off.

And this is exactly why I keep telling you don’t know what you talking about, because you keep saying things that show you don’t know what you are talking about and that the problems you are having are caused by you not understanding what you are doing

You are in NORMAL QUALITY gear, it’s literally weaker than your old level 90 gear, ILVL is literally meaningless in this situation because your stats went down.

Cosmic gathering has problems, look to that cosmic fishing thread you were absolutely sure I’d white knight for examples I suggested of problems and fixes cosmic fishing. You not understanding how gathering gear works and being absolutely sure it’s caused by the content being terrible and not you not understanding how your gear works is again not cosmics fault, it’s the fault of the wider gatherer gearing system but screaming cosmic is at fault here isn’t going to change that you simply don’t know how to gear properly

[Ekymus]

The ocean fishing boat will always leave at 15 minutes past the hour (every other hour) regardless of how many people queue. If not enough people are queuing to fill a boat you'll end up waiting until then.

You are wrong.

It's once every 2 hours, and I have tried for the last 6 months to do Ocean Fishing, and the instance never spawned. I waited over 30 minutes once to see if the instance would ever spawn.

[Ekymus]

And this is exactly why I keep telling you don’t know what you talking about, because you keep saying things that show you don’t know what you are talking about and that the problems you are having are caused by you not understanding what you are doing

You are in NORMAL QUALITY gear, it’s literally weaker than your old level 90 gear, ILVL is literally meaningless in this situation because your stats went down.

Cosmic gathering has problems, look to that cosmic fishing thread you were absolutely sure I’d white knight for examples I suggested of problems and fixes cosmic fishing. You not understanding how gathering gear works and being absolutely sure it’s caused by the content being terrible and not you not understanding how your gear works is again not cosmics fault, it’s the fault of the wider gatherer gearing system but screaming cosmic is at fault here isn’t going to change that you simply don’t know how to gear properly

All I hear when you type is, "Blah blah blah, I'm a self-righteous white knight who doesn't know what I'm talking about but I'll defend this sh*tty content to my dying breath and pretend that it's the best content in the game".

You're ignoring what I said because it doesn't fit the narrative you've formed in your head. Literally, the only difference between me succeeding and my failing was the gear I was using. I was using the same abilities in the same rotation, I always use them.

Without the Cosmic Exploration gear, I would 100% fail. With the Cosmic Exploration gear, I would succeed maybe 1 out of 5 tries. Do you understand that or are you too st*pid to understand that, and I need to try to find smaller words you are capable of understanding?

[Asari5]

how do they synch down?

im having a really hard time on crafter. im using ilvl 700 script gear on the left side and ilvl 620 script gear on the right side. both on crafter and gatherer.

but while its pretty easy on gatherer (not talking about rank a missions, these are obviously for max gear.) i have pretty big problems on crafter from the very first rank D quest on. now they are somewhat doable but its crazy how long i need for one single craft.
and even when comparing the red alert missions from crafter and gatherer the difference is ridiculous (in equal gear). i can do a LOT of that same gatherer red alert mission in those 20min but barely any crafter ones. trying to reach hq is so frustrating and nq barely gives any points.