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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    This game has literally never had a problem popping CT but does struggle to pop the higher level alliance raids

    Literally nobody outside of like a tiny part of ARR has ever struggled to pop CT

    But if they continue to make the roulettes boring as hell the vets will stop running them
    noone is talking about crystal tower..

    if people spam aglaia only for leveling purposes, because its by for the most effecient source of experience, then noone does leveling, trial, normal raid, msq roulette or fates in the overworld or whatnot
    The purpose of these roulettes is to get players into groups of new players, so those dont have to queue 10 hours for a single pop, thats the only purpose of any roulette in this game.
    By nerfing aglaia, they "buffed" roulettes > its good for new players > its good for the game > its good for every player in the long run
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    noone is talking about crystal tower..

    if people spam aglaia only for leveling purposes, because its by for the most effecient source of experience, then noone does leveling, trial, normal raid, msq roulette or fates in the overworld or whatnot
    The purpose of these roulettes is to get players into groups of new players, so those dont have to queue 10 hours for a single pop, thats the only purpose of any roulette in this game.
    By nerfing aglaia, they "buffed" roulettes > its good for new players > its good for the game > its good for every player in the long run
    People did aglaia after the roulettes because the roulettes are one and done for the day. The only way the roulettes will lose popularity is when the vets get sick of constantly running level 40 content on their level 100 classes

    If you truly think that this was going to doom the roulettes then I have a bridge to sell you especially considering there has been instances all throughout the games history of things being better than the roulettes, POTD and Bozja being the big ones

    Dooming about the sanctity of the roulettes is just a waste of time considering this actually benefits nobody
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    People did aglaia after the roulettes because the roulettes are one and done for the day.
    See... and thats the problem. Aglaia was never meant to be for leveling in the first place. We got x1-x9 dungeons for this every expantion. DT's leveling Dungeons should be primary leveling method after Daily Roulettes, Beasttribes and other methods with a lockout. Thats the entire purpose of those dungeons after the first run for the msq. Thats normal for pretty much every big MMO out there. You dont believe me? Go try leveling up with previous expansion LFR Raids in WoW. Wont work like it should.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi View Post
    See... and thats the problem. Aglaia was never meant to be for leveling in the first place. We got x1-x9 dungeons for this every expantion. DT's leveling Dungeons should be primary leveling method after Daily Roulettes, Beasttribes and other methods with a lockout. Thats the entire purpose of those dungeons after the first run for the msq. Thats normal for pretty much every big MMO out there. You dont believe me? Go try leveling up with previous expansion LFR Raids in WoW. Wont work like it should.
    I mean why? Bozja is the best levelling method from 71-90. Not only is it better than ShB levelling dungeons its better than EW levelling dungeons, did anyone have a problem with that? The levelling dungeons are just one way to level

    And let’s take “the levelling dungeons are supposed to be “the” way to level” as a given, that still doesn’t benefit the other person’s point anyway because me queueing for vanguard is no more “useful” to the roulettes than me queuing for aglaia
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    I'm glad tbh, I hated the EW alliance raids.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    the change is not about you having fun
    thank u, glad u admitted it

    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    its good for new players > its good for the game > its good for every player in the long run
    You know what's good for new players? Making a non-shit game and giving lv50 jobs good gameplay.



    I'm sure new players are just flooding into this game and so many new players are just SOOOOO upset that Aglaia is the best way to level. They must have complained SOOOOOOOO much. Just look at ALL these NEW players coming to the game! Just look at those HUGE blue bars in Dawntrail, it's even higher than 1.0!
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    Last edited by Kazuke_Miso; 03-22-2025 at 08:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazuke_Miso View Post
    thank u, glad u admitted it



    You know what's good for new players? Making a non-shit game and giving lv50 jobs good gameplay.



    I'm sure new players are just flooding into this game and so many new players are just SOOOOO upset that Aglaia is the best way to level. They must have complained SOOOOOOOO much. Just look at ALL these NEW players coming to the game! Just look at those HUGE blue bars in Dawntrail, it's even higher than 1.0!
    What many people fail to realize with these comments is that there is more to the game than just the x1-x0 dungeons, like the trials and alliance raids themselves... It's so utterly comical that some people are so 'miserable' getting nothing but CT, yet in the same vein are applauding the removal of one of the very few situations where people are actually encouraged to queue for the alliance raids well out of their lifespan.

    But nah, Aglaia being only marginally better than dungeons, surely everyone will flock to that, and most definitely everyone trying to do the dungeons for the first time are encountering 80 minute queue timers, because absolutely everyone and their grandmother is flocking to Aglaia.. Was never a problem in HW when they elected to release DD which allowed you to do up to 60 in PotD.. Never was a problem in SB when they gave us HoH... Never was a problem in ShB when they gave us Bozja which allowed you to do 71-90.

    Then on top of that some of these folks are parading around with the "Ur the type of people that are killing the game" - When praising this is change is effectively encouraging them to continue with their miserable rote formula of nothing but dungeon spam (and some FATEs) as the primary non-time-gated levelling method... But it's OK, you only need to wait nearly 15 months before you can see another levelling method added to the game, and hye "We're only trying to protect the new players' queue timer.

    Edit: It's so sad to see people actually applauding for less choice and decision making in levelling.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 03-22-2025 at 09:18 PM.

  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi View Post
    I dont see the problem with the nerf.
    Getting 1 lvl in under 20Min without any effort is too broken.
    Im surprised they waited this long. It was obviously not intended.
    Complaining that 14's gameplay is stale and boring but willing to spam the most boring Alliance Raid. smh
    Make up your mind, guys.
    I'm sorry but I will take any EW alliance raid over 1 2 3 spam of Crystal tower or labyrinth of the ancients. Which requires no effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    noone is talking about crystal tower..

    if people spam aglaia only for leveling purposes, because its by for the most effecient source of experience, then noone does leveling, trial, normal raid, msq roulette or fates in the overworld or whatnot
    The purpose of these roulettes is to get players into groups of new players, so those dont have to queue 10 hours for a single pop, thats the only purpose of any roulette in this game.
    By nerfing aglaia, they "buffed" roulettes > its good for new players > its good for the game > its good for every player in the long run
    How many times people like you need a reminder that alliance roulette is one day cooldown. They are basically saying either spam boring dungeons (as dps gl) or level up your alts very slowly so they farm login numbers for their corporate meetings.

    Every person who wants to play this game and level alt 90+ is losing. Go help botters in ARR raids instead of playing pretty much maxed out class at level 90.

    Why do i even need to add that they "fix" this after 12 years since DT came out. (and interestingly DT bozja not allowing alts to enter from 91+)
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    Last edited by Stasya; 03-22-2025 at 09:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    the change is not about you having fun or not during roulettes, its about filling groups of first timers and new players, to give them a better gaming experience and keep them connected to the game
    Before the nerf, CT raids were still what I would get in my roulettes 9 out of 10 times. What are you even talking about?
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