Revert level 90 Alliance XP change

[Supersnow845]

the change is not about you having fun or not during roulettes, its about filling groups of first timers and new players, to give them a better gaming experience and keep them connected to the game

This game has literally never had a problem popping CT but does struggle to pop the higher level alliance raids

Literally nobody outside of like a tiny part of ARR has ever struggled to pop CT

But if they continue to make the roulettes boring as hell the vets will stop running them

[ServerCollaps]

This game has literally never had a problem popping CT but does struggle to pop the higher level alliance raids

Literally nobody outside of like a tiny part of ARR has ever struggled to pop CT

But if they continue to make the roulettes boring as hell the vets will stop running them

noone is talking about crystal tower..

if people spam aglaia only for leveling purposes, because its by for the most effecient source of experience, then noone does leveling, trial, normal raid, msq roulette or fates in the overworld or whatnot
The purpose of these roulettes is to get players into groups of new players, so those dont have to queue 10 hours for a single pop, thats the only purpose of any roulette in this game.
By nerfing aglaia, they "buffed" roulettes > its good for new players > its good for the game > its good for every player in the long run

[Supersnow845]

noone is talking about crystal tower..

if people spam aglaia only for leveling purposes, because its by for the most effecient source of experience, then noone does leveling, trial, normal raid, msq roulette or fates in the overworld or whatnot
The purpose of these roulettes is to get players into groups of new players, so those dont have to queue 10 hours for a single pop, thats the only purpose of any roulette in this game.
By nerfing aglaia, they "buffed" roulettes > its good for new players > its good for the game > its good for every player in the long run

People did aglaia after the roulettes because the roulettes are one and done for the day. The only way the roulettes will lose popularity is when the vets get sick of constantly running level 40 content on their level 100 classes

If you truly think that this was going to doom the roulettes then I have a bridge to sell you especially considering there has been instances all throughout the games history of things being better than the roulettes, POTD and Bozja being the big ones

Dooming about the sanctity of the roulettes is just a waste of time considering this actually benefits nobody

[YukioKobayashi]

People did aglaia after the roulettes because the roulettes are one and done for the day.

See... and thats the problem. Aglaia was never meant to be for leveling in the first place. We got x1-x9 dungeons for this every expantion. DT's leveling Dungeons should be primary leveling method after Daily Roulettes, Beasttribes and other methods with a lockout. Thats the entire purpose of those dungeons after the first run for the msq. Thats normal for pretty much every big MMO out there. You dont believe me? Go try leveling up with previous expansion LFR Raids in WoW. Wont work like it should.

[Supersnow845]

See... and thats the problem. Aglaia was never meant to be for leveling in the first place. We got x1-x9 dungeons for this every expantion. DT's leveling Dungeons should be primary leveling method after Daily Roulettes, Beasttribes and other methods with a lockout. Thats the entire purpose of those dungeons after the first run for the msq. Thats normal for pretty much every big MMO out there. You dont believe me? Go try leveling up with previous expansion LFR Raids in WoW. Wont work like it should.

I mean why? Bozja is the best levelling method from 71-90. Not only is it better than ShB levelling dungeons its better than EW levelling dungeons, did anyone have a problem with that? The levelling dungeons are just one way to level

And let’s take “the levelling dungeons are supposed to be “the” way to level” as a given, that still doesn’t benefit the other person’s point anyway because me queueing for vanguard is no more “useful” to the roulettes than me queuing for aglaia

[Volgia]

I'm glad tbh, I hated the EW alliance raids.

[Stasya]

noone is talking about crystal tower..

if people spam aglaia only for leveling purposes, because its by for the most effecient source of experience, then noone does leveling, trial, normal raid, msq roulette or fates in the overworld or whatnot
The purpose of these roulettes is to get players into groups of new players, so those dont have to queue 10 hours for a single pop, thats the only purpose of any roulette in this game.
By nerfing aglaia, they "buffed" roulettes > its good for new players > its good for the game > its good for every player in the long run

How many times people like you need a reminder that alliance roulette is one day cooldown. They are basically saying either spam boring dungeons (as dps gl) or level up your alts very slowly so they farm login numbers for their corporate meetings.

Every person who wants to play this game and level alt 90+ is losing. Go help botters in ARR raids instead of playing pretty much maxed out class at level 90.

Why do i even need to add that they "fix" this after 12 years since DT came out. (and interestingly DT bozja not allowing alts to enter from 91+)

[YukioKobayashi]

How many times people like you need a reminder that alliance roulette is one day cooldown. They are basically saying either spam boring dungeons (as dps gl) or level up your alts very slowly so they farm login numbers for their corporate meetings.

Every person who wants to play this game and level alt 90+ is losing. Go help botters in ARR raids instead of playing pretty much maxed out class at level 90.

Why do i even need to add that they "fix" this after 12 years since DT came out. (and interestingly DT bozja not allowing alts to enter from 91+)

You should seek help If you really think Algaia is more engaging and less boring than spamming a different DT dungeon every 2 lvls imo. I do believe that every dungeon except the first one has more mechanics that require you to pay more attention in comparison to algaia.
But thats not really the point. EXP gains are too high. Players that rarely log in have already most if not all jobs at 100. This doesnt only apply to Algaia but also to Bozja. Which is probably the reason why the new Zone is not made for alt leveling like Bozja.

[Supersnow845]

You should seek help If you really think Algaia is more engaging and less boring than spamming a different DT dungeon every 2 lvls imo. I do believe that every dungeon except the first one has more mechanics that require you to pay more attention in comparison to algaia.
But thats not really the point. EXP gains are too high. Players that rarely log in have already most if not all jobs at 100. This doesnt only apply to Algaia but also to Bozja. Which is probably the reason why the new Zone is not made for alt leveling like Bozja.

The point isn’t whether aglaia or vanguard is more interesting, the point is this change reduces choice for no benefit other than trying to enforce dumping more people into the roulettes which at this point half the vets see as a downside

If they think people are getting Omni 100 too easily then nerf everything, but at an even rate so choice is retained, hell partially buff euphorsyne and thelia and let people choose any of them as an alternative levelling option

[Kaurhz]

If I am honest, if they see the issue that people are getting omni too quickly, then they need to bring everything down... Roulette exp, dungeon exp, FATE exp, etc., and the question is why wait so long to make this change if this is the issue... Aglaia rewarding actual, measurable EXP was the talk of the town on launch <- That was 8 months ago. It takes around 70 days to get everything from 90-100 if you do nothing but roulettes, that's a small drop compared to how long it has taken to make this change.

If their issue is the EXP is too significant then reduce the EXP so that it is marginally worse than a 91 dungeon, not so that the EXP gain is essentially worthless like all other alliance raids.. Having that element of choice is healthy for a game. (Apparently Square Enix beg to differ).

Also people arguing that level 91 dungeons require 3 brain cells firing off electrical signals instead of the traditional 2 brain cells that Aglaia might require has got to be the most insane argument ever... Neither of them are exciting.