FFXIV and Job Identity

[ETermin]

Healers
The separation of pure and shield healers helps establish healer identity. WHM and AST, and SCH and SGE have effectively the same kits with minor differences. The goal is to establish identity further within the healer role.

White Mage - White magic, the arcane art of succor, was conceived eras past that the world might know comfort. Alas, man began perverting its powers for self-gain, and by his wickedness brought about the Sixth Umbral catastrophe. Although the art subsequently became forbidden, it is now in the midst of a revival at the hands of the Padjal, chosen of the elementals. Those who would walk the path of the white mage are healers without peer, possessed of the power to deliver comrades from the direst of afflictions—even the icy grip of death itself.

Raw healer with raw DPS capabilities

Glare 340 potency – 2.5s

Increase Potency to 410

Increase cast time to 2s

Dia 75 potency + 750 potency over time

Adjust Aero/Dia to Magic Debuff on target

+2% Damage Taken

Skill become a must have for optimization

Adjust Stone Mastery IV Trait

Becomes Stone V Ability instead of Glare.

Stone V – 340 Potency – 1.5s Cast time – 300 MP

Slide cast skill with lower cast time and mana cost.

New Spell - Holy Ray

280 potency – 400MP cost – Used for movement

Shield Skills

Divine Benison + Divine Caress

Adjust to Heal over Time

Raise

Reduce Mana cost to 1500
Reduce cast time to 4s

Effects

WHM becomes a powerhouse in raw healing and in raw DPS capabilities while being able to support the party through the utility of a debuff. Increases reliance on other healers to clear high end content creating a meta of DPS vs Healing capabilities. DPS capabilities are tied to movement making optimization more challenging at higher end gameplay while still being accessible. Reducing the cost and time for raise pushes WHM to become the defacto raise job allowing to still have a place in progression.

[AmiableApkallu]

I emphatically disagree with the premise that jobs should forcibly be placed into tiers. Every job should be easy to pick up, and have some reasonably, obvious straightforward way to play it. Every job should provide room for optimization and for players to show off their skill.

I'm especially annoyed at yet another proposal that treats WHM as Baby's First Healer, as if the White Mages of Amdapor were simpletons that just stood there casting Cure III while they waited for Mhach to give up and go home.

Effects

WHM becomes a powerhouse in raw healing and in raw DPS capabilities while being able to support the party through the utility of a debuff. Increases reliance on other healers to clear high end content creating a meta of DPS vs Healing capabilities. DPS capabilities are tied to movement making optimization more challenging at higher end gameplay while still being accessible. Reducing the cost and time for raise pushes WHM to become the defacto raise job allowing to still have a place in progression.

WHM is already dependent on the rest of the party in high end content because it has next to nothing for handling single-hit raid-wides that lop off 100+% of your HP unmitigated. "If we survive, I'll heal you" is a terrible identity, and it feels awful in practice. WHM needs more access to shields and mitigation, not less.

And adding a debuff to Dia changes nothing. It was already "a must have for optimization" because of the total damage it delivers.

[Mercury_Grey]

I emphatically disagree with the premise that jobs should forcibly be placed into tiers. Every job should be easy to pick up, and have some reasonably, obvious straightforward way to play it. Every job should provide room for optimization and for players to show off their skill.

I'm especially annoyed at yet another proposal that treats WHM as Baby's First Healer, as if the White Mages of Amdapor were simpletons that just stood there casting Cure III while they waited for Mhach to give up and go home.



WHM is already dependent on the rest of the party in high end content because it has next to nothing for handling single-hit raid-wides that lop off 100+% of your HP unmitigated. "If we survive, I'll heal you" is a terrible identity, and it feels awful in practice. WHM needs more access to shields and mitigation, not less.

And adding a debuff to Dia changes nothing. It was already "a must have for optimization" because of the total damage it delivers.

i have to ask on what you want to give for WHM to be a shielder which would make it so there is 2 shielders and their step children. I'd rathor WHM bemore of a healer with some DPS then a healer that can do everything from shielding to healing. Makes me think of the StB AST and how you had to choose between shielding or healing stances.