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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    If I was a player who only cared about msq and I wasn't feeling it this expansion, I'd unsub for most of the year and resub at the end of the patch cycle in advance of the next expansion. That's what a reasonable person would do. I don't think most people only care about msq, like you say, though. I think people like other things in this game. At the end of the day we're all expected to be adults here and it's up to each of us to choose how we spend our money. If you think you don't get enough out of your subscription, there's an easy course of action you could take. So I'm sure we all agree that most people who remain subbed find the game is worth the cost of their subscription.
    Most MMO players just want a reasonable experience for their money. I don't want to quit. I want the game to be decent.

    People who complain about players complaining just want to start fights for personal entertainment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    What's wrong with visual novels?
    Nothing. But the answer to this question hardly tells us anything. We could ask:

    "If a game is masking its flaws behind a fantastic story and universe, what happens to the playerbase when the story gets bad?"
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by yesnt View Post
    just want to start fights for personal entertainment.
    Congrats, you figured out their (ul)"Exterior" motive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sagacious View Post
    Are you serious? shaming in a Japanese mmo? Do you realize in their culture if shammed they will (hara-kiri)(seppuku) themselves?

  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by yesnt View Post
    Most MMO players just want a reasonable experience for their money. I don't want to quit. I want the game to be decent.
    Ok. I'm saying if you feel like you're not getting a good experience for your money, throwing more money at the game is a silly thing to do and no amount of posting can reverse it.

    People who complain about players complaining just want to start fights for personal entertainment.
    - Sun Tsu

    Quote Originally Posted by brinn12 View Post
    Nothing. But the answer to this question hardly tells us anything. We could ask:

    "If a game is masking its flaws behind a fantastic story and universe, what happens to the playerbase when the story gets bad?"
    "This game is just a visual novel!"

    "What's wrong with visual novels?"

    "Nothing."

    I'm ... I'm glad we agree?
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    They should really focus on giving longevity to existing systems. I would love if they overhauled fates and leves (especially group+combat leves) to be lucrative and worth spamming at max level. They both need to provide long term grind goals with unique currencies more than just the occasional bicolor gemstone mount. We need like a PvE grind mount, glamour, pet and title every patch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    Ok. I'm saying if you feel like you're not getting a good experience for your money, throwing more money at the game is a silly thing to do and no amount of posting can reverse it.


    - Sun Tsu



    "This game is just a visual novel!"

    "What's wrong with visual novels?"

    "Nothing."

    I'm ... I'm glad we agree?
    You picked literally one word. It's hilarious that you're replicating SE's behavior when facing complaints.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    Ok. I'm saying if you feel like you're not getting a good experience for your money, throwing more money at the game is a silly thing to do and no amount of posting can reverse it.
    You are correct. Sub is atm not running. I am not sure if I will sub for the next patch.
    However, as long as I can complain here, I will complain, because I also paid for access to the forums and want the full MMO experience including trolling trolls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brinn12 View Post
    You picked literally one word. It's hilarious that you're replicating SE's behavior when facing complaints.
    The rest of your message had nothing to do with my question about visual novels, it was just you trying to make a new statement in disguise to dodge the point. I'm not personally interested in addressing your new point because I don't find it compelling.

    Quote Originally Posted by yesnt View Post
    You are correct. Sub is atm not running. I am not sure if I will sub for the next patch.
    However, as long as I can complain here, I will complain, because I also paid for access to the forums and want the full MMO experience including trolling trolls.
    I wasn't expecting you to agree with me so hard that you'd change your mind and cancel your sub. I appreciate your openness. I'm glad we had this conversation.
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    Last edited by Exmo; 03-17-2025 at 12:17 PM.

  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    The rest of your message had nothing to do with my question about visual novels, it was just you trying to make a new statement in disguise to dodge the point. I'm not personally interested in addressing your new point because I don't find it compelling.


    I wasn't expecting you to agree with me so hard that you'd change your mind and cancel your sub. I appreciate your openness. I'm glad we had this conversation.
    And guess what company is not personally interested on answering questions they don't agree with, blind to words they don't want to see. Thank you for confirming my theory, and have a nice day/night
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    I wasn't expecting you to agree with me so hard that you'd change your mind and cancel your sub. I appreciate your openness. I'm glad we had this conversation.
    You seem to have a hard time following a conversation, but I will forgive you.
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