No, we do have enough content

[brinn12]

What's wrong with visual novels?

Nothing. But the answer to this question hardly tells us anything. We could ask:

"If a game is masking its flaws behind a fantastic story and universe, what happens to the playerbase when the story gets bad?"

[Jojoya]

Most MMO players just want a reasonable experience for their money. I don't want to quit. I want the game to be decent.

You're not going to get the player base to agree on what constitutes decent. The members of my Free Company don't even agree about the state of the game. A few of us are stepping away from the game pending changes that may make it enjoyable to us again. Others are happy with it as is and continue to log in to play as usual.

Who do you think SE is more likely to listen to?

Continuing to pay for game time isn't going to cause the game to change to your satisfaction when other players are satisfied with how it currently is.

In the long run, it's your money. You can keep spending on something you don't feel is decent, or you can spend it elsewhere on something that does.

Just remember that by continuing to pay for a product you don't like, you're enabling the business to continue turning out the product as is. That's true of any product from any company, not just FFXIV from SE.

Nothing. But the answer to this question hardly tells us anything. We could ask:

"If a game is masking its flaws behind a fantastic story and universe, what happens to the playerbase when the story gets bad?"

Same thing that happens when the player base thinks the story is good.

Some quit playing. Others continue to play.

The player base is not a hive mind. There are different opinions about what is good and what is bad.

Don't worry about what others are thinking. If you think the game is good, keep playing. If you think the game is bad, quit playing. It could be you're not part of the demographic they want to please with current game design so continuing to stay subbed to complain about it is just throwing your money away.

[brinn12]

Some quit playing. Others continue to play.

The player base is not a hive mind. There are different opinions about what is good and what is bad.

Don't worry about what others are thinking. If you think the game is good, keep playing. If you think the game is bad, quit playing. It could be you're not part of the demographic they want to please with current game design so continuing to stay subbed to complain about it is just throwing your money away.

While other people's tastes, be they good or bad, should not change the way we enjoy a videogame, this does not mean we should ignore them.

If the majority of the playerbase dislikes a subscription based game to the point of quitting, that means your experiences will be affected. A company needs money to make a good product, which means they need people to pay for it.

The reality we have is, FFXIV was in an uptrend until Endwalker, and started a downtrend in Dawntrail, which coincides with the downfall of the MSQ. And whether a game is making more or less money than expected is not the same thing.

[User202503201232]

While other people's tastes, be they good or bad, should not change the way we enjoy a videogame, this does not mean we should ignore them.

If the majority of the playerbase dislikes a subscription based game to the point of quitting, that means your experiences will be affected. A company needs money to make a good product, which means they need people to pay for it.

The reality we have is, FFXIV was in an uptrend until Endwalker, and started a downtrend in Dawntrail, which coincides with the downfall of the MSQ. And whether a game is making more or less money than expected is not the same thing.

This your first time talking to Jojoya?

Don't bother lmao, they are the queen of concern trolling

They have 9060 posts on these forums and all of them are "actually some people like the game right now btw, so yeah it's actually not black and white!!"

They'll pull you into the orbit of this pointless discussion about how some people like X while others don't like X. The moment you get trapped in that orbit not even an escape velocity of c will allow you to go back to actual substantive critiques people were talking about earlier.

If that doesn't work, their next tactic is to laser focus on one single word or term you're using and get everyone to debate things like "what does it actually mean for there to be "content"".

[yesnt]

You're not going to get the player base to agree on what constitutes decent.

- Hats for all
- Krile needed more attention in DT
- give us job identity back
- no braindead dungeons
- idk what else, there is more than enough, for example, check the 200 pages of comments on the graphical update

I barely see people disagreeing on these topics. When I see them disagree, it's mostly because some people want to have fights with other players for the sake of having fights. The same topics being brought up over and over again is a pretty clear sign that a consistent level of disagreement exists. Of course there will always be one person who genuinely disagrees, but that's one person. Maybe two. Not enough to say that players disagree a lot.