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    Quote Originally Posted by KillaKilala View Post
    Look, I’m not trying to defend the game. I’m not happy with the direction it’s taking and I've made other threads about it before. The thing is I’m so tired of the constant, non-constructive yapping. Have you ever thought maybe that’s why the devs stopped listening to us? You probably didn't. But you've made multiple posts about the game dying because of blm changes, without even playing it first. Please tell me, how is it possible for the timer to run out if you know exactly how many gcds you can put in that window? Have you thought, maybe it will be more fun to play if you don't need to stress out about something that will probably never happen? Or maybe it will create some new non-standard rotations? No, you didn't think about it, you're too scared of any changes even though you ask for them. The bots are ruining the market... not just the undercutting bots, but the crafting and gathering bots... but yeah let's continue pretending that it's not happening and create another 10 threads and 100 yt videos about non-existent problems.
    Also this is just absolutely rich when multiple people have explained exactly how and why the BLM changes reduce their fun.

    You dismissed their legitimate concern about BLM, so how would you like for people to dismiss your concern about undercutting bots?

    *ahem*

    Are you sure they're bots???? uwu They could be real humans who simply play the game a LOT!! XD

    Also why is it a bad thing for there to be crafting bots?? :3c I can buy my crafted gear for only 30k gil!!

    And please shush about the crafting bots how is that even an issue o.O this game isn't a game about crafting it's just side content oh em geeee~~!

    Besides, they post about the weekly bans on the Lodestone!!! owo That means you're just exaggerating the issue!! The bots get banned every week so it's not actually a real problem!!

    Also, please shush about this problem because the only way they can solve it by putting anticheat in the game and it's illegal to put anticheat in JAPAN!! So you're asking for Square to break the law huh?? Just deal with the crafting bots, it's not a big deal oh em geeee~~! It's far better than having anticheat in the game uwu

    uwu owo :3c <3 <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fagotura View Post
    Also this is just absolutely rich when multiple people have explained exactly how and why the BLM changes reduce their fun.

    You dismissed their legitimate concern about BLM, so how would you like for people to dismiss your concern about undercutting bots?

    *ahem*

    Are you sure they're bots???? uwu They could be real humans who simply play the game a LOT!! XD

    Also why is it a bad thing for there to be crafting bots?? :3c I can buy my crafted gear for only 30k gil!!

    And please shush about the crafting bots how is that even an issue o.O this game isn't a game about crafting it's just side content oh em geeee~~!

    Besides, they post about the weekly bans on the Lodestone!!! owo That means you're just exaggerating the issue!! The bots get banned every week so it's not actually a real problem!!

    Also, please shush about this problem because the only way they can solve it by putting anticheat in the game and it's illegal to put anticheat in JAPAN!! So you're asking for Square to break the law huh?? Just deal with the crafting bots, it's not a big deal oh em geeee~~! It's far better than having anticheat in the game uwu

    uwu owo :3c <3 <3
    Sorry I didn’t read their yapping much. It would be great if you could provide a link to that explanation or the answers to my questions instead of trying to argue with me.

    And yes I’m sure they’re bots. I saw them crafting. I saw them gathering. You don’t even need the anti-cheat to notice they’re cheating. Not to mention that when plogoons are down the prices of for instance pots go from 1400 to 6000. Why is that a problem? Because I want to make the gil from crafting and I can’t. I want the devs to rework crafting in a way that it will be almost impossible to bot it or otherwise ban these cheaters, so that we can have a healthy economy. I feel so sorry for the honest crafters that play on consoles. And I don’t believe these lodestone post, to me these are just random numbers, or maybe it’s the number o banned gil selling spammers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillaKilala View Post
    Sorry I didn’t read their yapping much. It would be great if you could provide a link to that explanation or the answers to my questions instead of trying to argue with me.
    You're talking to a troll account that's a vessel for those bots. You'd be better off trying to convince a dog to stop barking.
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    Does the box price of the expansion not count here? You are paying 40 dollars upfront just to access the new quests, raids, etc. on top of the monthly subscription.

    I would much rather purchase elden ring knowing I am getting a well crafted 60 hour experience than to purchase a 40 dollar expansion and pay 15 dollars for a one month subscription each month for what you say is 27.5 hours of content each month, especially when most of the content in the game right now is a reskin of something we have had before.

    Its extremely hard to be constructive when the devs don't listen or communicate with players well at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillaKilala View Post
    Sorry I didn’t read their yapping much. It would be great if you could provide a link to that explanation or the answers to my questions instead of trying to argue with me.

    And yes I’m sure they’re bots. I saw them crafting. I saw them gathering. You don’t even need the anti-cheat to notice they’re cheating. Not to mention that when plogoons are down the prices of for instance pots go from 1400 to 6000. Why is that a problem? Because I want to make the gil from crafting and I can’t. I want the devs to rework crafting in a way that it will be almost impossible to bot it or otherwise ban these cheaters, so that we can have a healthy economy. I feel so sorry for the honest crafters that play on consoles. And I don’t believe these lodestone post, to me these are just random numbers, or maybe it’s the number o banned gil selling spammers.
    I think my point is completely lost on you.

    It's not even about black mage or crafter bots. It's about the, hopefully, innate human capacity for perspective-taking. I hope you actually seriously reflect on how your legitimate grievances with crafting are the same as those grievances made by BLM players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    Now imagine what happens if the players will follow this advice.


    Cheers
    I guess it’s not a big deal since Yoshi-P himself said the same thing. It’s not like every single player is going to unsub. I seriously don’t understand why should you stay subbed if you don’t play the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenniki View Post
    Does the box price of the expansion not count here? You are paying 40 dollars upfront just to access the new quests, raids, etc. on top of the monthly subscription.

    I would much rather purchase elden ring knowing I am getting a well crafted 60 hour experience than to purchase a 40 dollar expansion and pay 15 dollars for a one month subscription each month for what you say is 27.5 hours of content each month, especially when most of the content in the game right now is a reskin of something we have had before.

    Its extremely hard to be constructive when the devs don't listen or communicate with players well at all.
    Maybe I’ll do more calculations later, please look forward to it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fagotura View Post
    I think my point is completely lost on you.

    It's not even about black mage or crafter bots. It's about the, hopefully, innate human capacity for perspective-taking. I hope you actually seriously reflect on how your legitimate grievances with crafting are the same as those grievances made by BLM players.
    Ah yes, your uwus made it feel like you’re the one who’s cheating and don’t want your tools to be taken. I would sympathise to them more if they played the new blm first. But then again some people act like playing sam with kaiten was as hard as juggling 100 knives blindfolded, and how sam without kaiten is not a sam anymore but whm or archer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillaKilala View Post
    Ah yes, your uwus made it feel like you’re the one who’s cheating and don’t want your tools to be taken. I would sympathise to them more if they played the new blm first. But then again some people act like playing sam with kaiten was as hard as juggling 100 knives blindfolded, and how sam without kaiten is not a sam anymore but whm or archer.
    They ruined Astro, I can 100% understand why BLM players are upset. But I mean. You are a Gladiator main, maybe you should try using a job stone at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillaKilala View Post
    Ah yes, your uwus made it feel like you’re the one who’s cheating and don’t want your tools to be taken. I would sympathise to them more if they played the new blm first. But then again some people act like playing sam with kaiten was as hard as juggling 100 knives blindfolded, and how sam without kaiten is not a sam anymore but whm or archer.
    lol this is the median ff14 player folks

    Ever wonder why nothing gets fixed?

    Quote Originally Posted by yesnt View Post
    They ruined Astro, I can 100% understand why BLM players are upset. But I mean. You are a Gladiator main, maybe you should try using a job stone at all.
    It's actually hilarious how white knights pretend to be nice and reasonable, when their actions and words show a deep abyss in the human dimension known as "empathy".

    At least this round of white knights isn't as bad as VelKallor lmao
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    Are you serious? shaming in a Japanese mmo? Do you realize in their culture if shammed they will (hara-kiri)(seppuku) themselves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yesnt View Post
    Most MMO players just want a reasonable experience for their money. I don't want to quit. I want the game to be decent.
    Ok. I'm saying if you feel like you're not getting a good experience for your money, throwing more money at the game is a silly thing to do and no amount of posting can reverse it.

    People who complain about players complaining just want to start fights for personal entertainment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brinn12 View Post
    Nothing. But the answer to this question hardly tells us anything. We could ask:

    "If a game is masking its flaws behind a fantastic story and universe, what happens to the playerbase when the story gets bad?"
    "This game is just a visual novel!"

    "What's wrong with visual novels?"

    "Nothing."

    I'm ... I'm glad we agree?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    Ok. I'm saying if you feel like you're not getting a good experience for your money, throwing more money at the game is a silly thing to do and no amount of posting can reverse it.


    - Sun Tsu



    "This game is just a visual novel!"

    "What's wrong with visual novels?"

    "Nothing."

    I'm ... I'm glad we agree?
    You picked literally one word. It's hilarious that you're replicating SE's behavior when facing complaints.
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