Is there a point in caring about the game?

[AshtonCrowe]

The Content Creator shills are already trying to hype the update as "A move in the right direction" "A change in positivity for the game"!

Then you look at the same people couple hours later and they're playing or talking about WoW, This community is so messed up lmao. Why are you playing another game if you're so positive about XIV's state and future?

[User202503201232]

The Content Creator shills are already trying to hype the update as "A move in the right direction" "A change in positivity for the game"!

Then you look at the same people couple hours later and they're playing or talking about WoW, This community is so messed up lmao. Why are you playing another game if you're so positive about XIV's state and future?

I don't think it's intentionally deceptive or manipulative.

I think people, including content creators, just have too much copium for this game.

It's always weird to me how the live letters are so bland and dull, showing next to nothing, but people will get so hyped over it.

It reminds me of PS1 era graphics. The polygons were crap, but you get so excited and amazed because your imagination fills up the rest of the scene.

This is what it is with live letters. They give nothing, and leave your imagination to fill in the blanks.

[Absurdity]

I don't think it's intentionally deceptive or manipulative.

I think people, including content creators, just have too much copium for this game.

I'd say it's a combination of copium and justified self-interest.
They hype it up because they both want and need the game to do well, unless they're a variety content creator/streamer their livelyhood relies on it after all.

[Jojoya]

Why are you playing another game if you're so positive about XIV's state and future?

Because it's possible to play and enjoy more than one game?

Some players might like the look of what's coming in 7.2 but it's not here yet. Why shouldn't they continue to play other games until the 25th arrives and they can try out the new content?

[CNitsah]

The Content Creator shills are already trying to hype the update as "A move in the right direction" "A change in positivity for the game"!

Then you look at the same people couple hours later and they're playing or talking about WoW, This community is so messed up lmao. Why are you playing another game if you're so positive about XIV's state and future?

Well, I'm the first there to complain about the calendar, but it's kinda is a move in the right direction. Returning to content with shelf life has been one of the major demand of the past years : is it enough and will it achieve the wanted desire, we'll know when it's there. But it is definitely a step in the right direction. As much as some people are on high on copium that can't see the problems, some of you are terminali doomers, that don't see any difference between saying "it's a step in the right direction" and "game is fixed now". You read the first and understand the second. And that's coming from someone that regulary thash SE decision.

[Kaurhz]

Well, I'm the first there to complain about the calendar, but it's kinda is a move in the right direction. Returning to content with shelf life has been one of the major demand of the past years : is it enough and will it achieve the wanted desire, we'll know when it's there. But it is definitely a step in the right direction. As much as some people are on high on copium that can't see the problems, some of you are terminali doomers, that don't see any difference between saying "it's a step in the right direction" and "game is fixed now". You read the first and understand the second. And that's coming from someone that regulary thash SE decision.

Return of content with shelf life is good, this is granted (An MMO should expect this as a bare minimum, not celebrate it).. But how long is it really going to be before people get sick and tired of that same formula, where they realize it's nothing new fundamentally, bar the difference of it being a new coat of paint with some new naming conventions.. Btw guys, look at our lovely new deep dungeon, you may find rare and notorious monsters loaming around which are incredibly difficult.. So you may want to avoid attacking them if you aren't a full party (Which many people were doing anyway with monsters like Anzu, Wolf, Worm, (Knight if Wraith nearby), because many of them presented legitimate threat), just hammers home the most fundamental part of Deep Dungeon, and exploratory anyway which is aggro types. But hey, be excited guys because we have Tetramanders this time (or whatever they decide to rename them)!

As someone who has been on both sides of this argument, you need to realize that many people who are complaining and 'terminal doomers', are people that have played this game well when they were taking risks like giving Coven weapons which had the potential to rival or be better than both relic & tome weapons, or when they played around with FC content, or when they actually made GC items part of the core content loop, and not just rushing a risk-free formula to try and appease everything. Not only that but people that are well attuned with how XIV does things, and not only XIV, but also the community.

I don't like being that one guy, but this exact same pattern has happened for the betterment of a decade. In about 2 weeks after the 7.2 launch, once people have cleared and once they realize yet again all they can fall back on is weekly reclears, then we will be back to the very same argument. We will be back to the very same issue that everything is so mundanely drip fed. Then Cosmic will come out, and it may feel fresh, give it a few weeks and how people consume it will be exactly no different to how Ishgard was consumed. Same thing with the DoH/L relics, same thing when eventually it becomes bot infested because they have managed to reduce crafting to where it is effectively just press 2 buttons. Will likely eventually be the same result with Occult Crescent, and the new deep dungeon

The most entertaining thing about this post, is I actually want to be wrong (even if I know better), so do many of the doom posters, really (But many, including myself have simply exhausted the 'benefit of the doubt' factor). But any given piece of content can only be as fun as the core systems supporting it (e.g., the ability suite of crafters, gatherers, and combat), when you reduce that so much, you only inhibit the fun factor of any given feature you decide to introduce.

Happy for them, really.. But it ain't going to preclude anything else.