I don't know about that. When I go into a fight, and die 5 times without even a clue what I did wrong, or how to do it better, I just loose interest.
So if I had any friends to which I talk about MMOs, I would tell them that the Trials and Raids in FF14 are an overdesigned mess with counter-intuitive and incomprehensible mechanics.
For the record: I like challenging games, I just recently dug out Doom Eternal, and played through on nightmare difficulty a couple of times. It's a hard game, but at least I understand what's about to happen - without memorizing 2 dozen different boss emotes that determine where the big AE will strike some 30 seconds later. A tough fight? I'd rather call them overly annoying, nothing else.



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