Moogle Treasure Trove returns

[TaleraRistain]

So many in this thread:

"Give me something to grind, SE!"
*SE gives something to grind like they always do a monthish before patch*
"Not like that!"

[Supersnow845]

So many in this thread:

"Give me something to grind, SE!"
*SE gives something to grind like they always do a monthish before patch*
"Not like that!"

“Give me something to grind”

“How’s incentivising dungeons again for a bunch of gear you probably already have or could get quicker by unsyncing except for like 2 things that you may also already own”

“Not really what I asked for”

“Well you are just impossible to please apparently”

[TaleraRistain]

“Give me something to grind”

“How’s incentivising dungeons again for a bunch of gear you probably already have or could get quicker by unsyncing except for like 2 things that you may also already own”

“Not really what I asked for”

“Well you are just impossible to please apparently”

All the stuff on this list is basically what's been on every mog tome list minus the 10th anniversary one. Why wasn't it an issue before?

[Supersnow845]

All the stuff on this list is basically what's been on every mog tome list minus the 10th anniversary one. Why wasn't it an issue before?

You are acting like it wasn’t

Read my first comment from this thread, I’m deriding them going for the paint by numbers approach AGAIN.

Is variety so hard to ask for

[TaleraRistain]

You are acting like it wasn’t

Read my first comment from this thread, I’m deriding them going for the paint by numbers approach AGAIN.

Is variety so hard to ask for

They have some things on this list they never had before. I don't believe I've seen the Ancient One on previous lists. There are always some mounts, some minions, some hairstyles, some bardings, some dungeon gear, some Triple Triad cards, some music, some furniture, MGP cards, treasure map stuff. Some of the choices they made for the regular things are rather nice. I don't know if you've farmed Hades recently, but he's pretty stingy. Same with the Eden TT card. I have most of this stuff too but there's always alts or helping friends who came after. There's literally something for just about everyone on this list.

[Clockworks]

They have some things on this list they never had before. I don't believe I've seen the Ancient One on previous lists. There are always some mounts, some minions, some hairstyles, some bardings, some dungeon gear, some Triple Triad cards, some music, some furniture, MGP cards, treasure map stuff. Some of the choices they made for the regular things are rather nice. I don't know if you've farmed Hades recently, but he's pretty stingy. Same with the Eden TT card. I have most of this stuff too but there's always alts or helping friends who came after. There's literally something for just about everyone on this list.

There's literally something for just about everyone on this list

Only in FFXIV do you see people hyping old content as "good" content

[Arrius]

Only in FFXIV do you see people hyping old content as "good" content

You didn't see WoW's Timewalking and their MoP Remix, then.

[Supersnow845]

They have some things on this list they never had before. I don't believe I've seen the Ancient One on previous lists. There are always some mounts, some minions, some hairstyles, some bardings, some dungeon gear, some Triple Triad cards, some music, some furniture, MGP cards, treasure map stuff. Some of the choices they made for the regular things are rather nice. I don't know if you've farmed Hades recently, but he's pretty stingy. Same with the Eden TT card. I have most of this stuff too but there's always alts or helping friends who came after. There's literally something for just about everyone on this list.

“There are some things on this list they have never had before”

Yeah that’s half the problem. This is just a pile of STILL ACCESSIBLE old garbage with like 2 exceptions organised in exactly the same way as it always is. This is designed as a veteran retention campaign. Half the vets barely even need one or two of these items. Why do they never do anything out there with these?

Offer a grand reward that’s like a ring that makes you do 30% more damage in fates or 20% more damage in non savage unsynced content. Allow people to earn tomes by doing things like killing NM’s or completing dalriada. Make it a path to the final reward that encourages you to do different things at every step, fish, deep dungeons, unsync an old extreme, alliance raids. Put old PVP rewards in it. Add a more useful version of the strider boots, ABILITY GLAMOURS

Just do SOMETHING to retain veterans who don’t need to run prae 20 times to get a whistle they could have unsynced in 1/10th of the time because they are afraid of their level 80 rotations. Removing the card incentive from E12 isn’t a good thing, do we want even less people running anything that’s not gordias normal. I’d rather take the penalty than do gordias normal at this point

For feedback's sake, what would be obtainable items from this that would actually move the needle? Saying something sucks is certainly feedback, especially when it ends up being a general consensus. Offering a reason why, and what would make it better would provide a lot more concrete foundation for actionable takeaways (hopium I know, but at least you can say you tried).

Oh btw my answer to your hypothetical question is basically in the above

[TaleraRistain]

Yeah that’s half the problem. This is just a pile of STILL ACCESSIBLE old garbage with like 2 exceptions organised in exactly the same way as it always is. This is designed as a veteran retention campaign. Half the vets barely even need one or two of these items. Why do they never do anything out there with these?

Offer a grand reward that’s like a ring that makes you do 30% more damage in fates or 20% more damage in non savage unsynced content. Allow people to earn tomes by doing things like killing NM’s or completing dalriada. Make it a path to the final reward that encourages you to do different things at every step, fish, deep dungeons, unsync an old extreme, alliance raids. Put old PVP rewards in it. Add a more useful version of the strider boots, ABILITY GLAMOURS

More options for things to do aren't a bad thing. I don't know how long you've been running the tome events but the Mogpendium and those different types of challenges are fairly new. They already include treasure maps as part of challenges so it makes sense if one option was field content. It wasn't too long ago that it was all just straight dungeons/raids/trials, and their challenges focusing on either other adventuring content or non-adventuring content has been quite popular.

Also, even vets sometimes don't have everything. Mogtomes give a temporary alternative to farming something. And that can be welcome for something like a stubborn extreme. Both Hades and Elidibus have had some rotten drop rates when I was farming recently to help out some friends. There's also usually at least one reward that comes from Ishgard Restoration, so those who don't really enjoy crafting have a way to get that for a short time. Mogtome only lasts a month, so the incentive to do the normal content isn't gone forever. And they focus on old rewards because then they're not competing with current content. There is always at least one item that you can only get through the event as well.

[Kaurhz]

So many in this thread:

"Give me something to grind, SE!"
*SE gives something to grind like they always do a monthish before patch*
"Not like that!"

The problem is, that these grinds; more specifically rewards are more catered to very very new players, which is OK, but these grinds are really not worth it with experienced players, which most players here are... Like, there's 2 things on this list which I don't actually have, and most of it is going to resort to doing 1 dungeon ad nauseum, which if we're being honest isn't exactly new anyway, and as per other posts the grinds which may be more interesting or serve as a challenge is usually just an ultimog.