FF14 player count reached the lowest point in 4 years. We lost 75% of the playerbase.

[Kohashi]

Yeah how dare they. This game has given so much good. Its the legit mother Theresa of videogames.
People are just ungrateful. They should honestly have like a 7 day demolition timer. Would force people to engage in content and ramp up those subnumbers. Its such a good game

Listen here really close. Nobody owes you anything. If you don't enjoy a service you move your business elsewhere, not bitch moan and threaten you will stop being a customer like a low-budget annoying Karen. Now shuu with your poor engagement baits

[Clockworks]

Listen here really close. Nobody owes you anything. If you don't enjoy a service you move your business elsewhere, not bitch moan and threaten you will stop being a customer like a low-budget annoying Karen. Now shuu with your poor engagement baits

With people like you, the game would have shut down in 1.0.

Thankfully people back then had a spine and were not trying to defend a multi billion company for their shortcomings.

[hydralus]

This is going to sound like the biggest “both sides” nonsense but I honestly don’t mean it that way

Honestly trying to “can’t you see the game is shit” to people who are enjoying the game is next to pointless just as “I enjoy the game no I won’t elaborate” to people who are complaining is pointless

If you want to come in with a “dissenting” opinion to the current thread prevailing opinion then at least back it up but trying to make others not enjoy the game when they do enjoy it doesn’t help anyone

I don't have a dissenting opinion. I'm sure there's tons of people unsubscribing. Good for them. If they don't enjoy the game and think it's bad, that's absolutely the thing to do. What I'm wondering is why the rest of these people who clearly hate every component of the game are still subbed.

[Kohashi]

With people like you, the game would have shut down in 1.0.

Thankfully people back then had a spine and were not trying to defend a multi billion company for their shortcomings.

or maybe.. the servers where collapsing and people weren't playing due to the multitude of issues preventing them?

Keep trying.. A+ for effort. Please continue thinking your forum toxic waste rage will achieve anything.

[Clockworks]

or maybe.. the servers where collapsing and people weren't playing due to the multitude of issues preventing them?

Keep trying.. A+ for effort. Please continue thinking your forum toxic waste rage will achieve anything.

My "toxic waste rage" ? Lmao, the only person toxic here is you.

[Supersnow845]

I don't have a dissenting opinion. I'm sure there's tons of people unsubscribing. Good for them. If they don't enjoy the game and think it's bad, that's absolutely the thing to do. What I'm wondering is why the rest of these people who clearly hate every component of the game are still subbed.

Who here hates every aspect of the game?

I for one love many aspects of the game, but I’m here complaining a lot, you know why?…………..because square never fixes anything

[Hallarem]

Listen here really close. Nobody owes you anything. If you don't enjoy a service you move your business elsewhere, not bitch moan and threaten you will stop being a customer like a low-budget annoying Karen. Now shuu with your poor engagement baits

Thats so true man. If anything we owe SE. I think we should have a 5 dollar housing tax every month. You should see a dude called Jeeqbit. He had really balanced takes and legit destroys all the SE haters on the forums. Legit

[NightHour]

Wow, would you look at that, yet another person who has no idea how statistics and sample sizes work, and who also ignores the Lucky Bancho numbers. How many of you are there? Are y'all not tired yet of having this same point debunked for 15 pages?

Yes, it's more complicated than just "we've lost 75% of the player base," but if you think these numbers aren't representative of the player base and are completely fine...more than simply ignorance, that is delusion.

I know the player base has declined, it's not 75% at all.

It's probably more like 25%.



It's nothing more than the natural course of MMO's.

We are not in 2010 anymore when MMO's were the cool thing to play.

Every MMO / live service game experiences periods of player count increases and decreases, it's natural to the type of game.



That doesn't mean I think there aren't any issues with the game because there absolutely is.


There's a lot of things XIV could do to retain players.


Shorter patch cycles and schedules (Like waiting until a .x5 for a criterion dungeon is insane)
Not time gating content behind .5 and .8 patches
Not taking nearly a year to unlock the raid tier (especially when the raid tier has an ultimate tied to it)
Tomes should also uncap earlier too.


etc etc


In regards to "Not taking nearly a year to unlock the raid tier (especially when the raid tier has an ultimate tied to it)".


In my opinion, If the raid tier in question has an ultimate tied to it then the raid tier should unlock either when the ultimate releases or say a week or 2 after the world race for the ultimate is over.

As for raid tiers without an ultimate, they should unlock on the next major odd patch.

Like unlocking the 7.2 raid series at 7.3. 7.4 at 7.5 etc.

Sometimes you have to flex roles or jobs and the raid tier being locked for so long doesn't make that possible.

[Clockworks]

I know the player base has declined, it's not 75% at all.

It's probably more like 25%.



It's nothing more than the natural course of MMO's.

We are not in 2010 anymore when MMO's were the cool thing to play.

Every MMO / live service game experiences periods of player count increases and decreases, it's natural to the type of game.



That doesn't mean I think there aren't any issues with the game because there absolutely is.


There's a lot of things XIV could do to retain players.


Shorter patch cycles and schedules (Like waiting until a .x5 for a criterion dungeon is insane)
Not time gating content behind .5 and .8 patches
Not taking nearly a year to unlock the raid tier (especially when the raid tier has an ultimate tied to it)


etc etc

As of december 2024, the game according to luckybanchos already had lost about 30% of it's population (down from 1.4 mils to barely under a million)

Your 25% estimate implies that people... came back for exactly nothing, and mind you, this was also inside a free campaign period.

As of august 2024, there were 42181 players on average playing the game on steam, as of today we are at 16481 which is a decrease of 60%. (and yes steam is a big enough sample)

[NightHour]

25% was solely a guess.