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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinoa_353 View Post
    You may want to rethink that when there are literal ancient hunter gather societies still in the stone age deep in the Amazon and more on Earth today, so their statement is correct.






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    Except for the fact that these tribes are pretty much isolated from the rest of the world and don't interact with cultures outside their own, so their exposure to technology is mostly limited to what they've known for centuries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuine_stranger View Post
    Except for the fact that these tribes are pretty much isolated from the rest of the world and don't interact with cultures outside their own, so their exposure to technology is mostly limited to what they've known for centuries.
    That's true but this also applies to Alexandria on the other end of the spectrum, they were isolated from their world for centuries until they arrived to The Source. One other example that would be better are the Amish, they are intertwined with our modern society but are still living in the 18th century technology wise for the most part. The problem I had is that it felt really rushed, 7.0 should have been only about Tural and the Skyruin as the big bad and then have 8.0 be about Alexandria to be able to explore the 9th Reflection and see how the Storm Surge had destroyed that world, that was what I really wanted to see more off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuine_stranger View Post
    Except for the fact that these tribes are pretty much isolated from the rest of the world and don't interact with cultures outside their own, so their exposure to technology is mostly limited to what they've known for centuries.
    I don't have a dog in this fight, but a more apt "but these people don't accept modern tech" would be more applicable to, say: the Amish, African tribes, the Bedouins tribes of the middle east, or perhaps the Mongolian nomads. In most cases it's that their lifestyle just doesn't need the tech in question, they're entirely unaware of the tech or they accept certain/specific tech that assimilates to their way easily.

    In the case of Gridania, I see it as an Amish situation. They don't want black powder because it'll make the elementals mad. Bows and spears make sense here, sourced from local materials.

    Ul'dah similarly is run by essentially a mob. You wouldn't want your population to have high tech to become a threat to you.

    Limsa honestly doesn't really make sense, unless we get some kinda weird lore retcon that actual inertial energy (aka projectiles) can beat magic shields, whereas lasers bounce off. Unless the cost of magic energy (Ceureleum/crystals) is high/unreasonable at a large scale. But then again, we have literal teleporters, and teleporters that can send without attunement so why are we even shipping things by boat at this point is beyond me.

    None of this even mentioning the building-sized 3D printers we have on the moon. That's where the game is bonkers to me. How is anyone homeless at this point? or starving?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    How is anyone homeless at this point? or starving?
    Yeah. How?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yesnt View Post
    I'm specifically talking in game, not real world, where (arguably) the "good" guys are in control of the space printers/free rabbit labor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinoa_353 View Post
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    It really feels like they’re speedrunning their expansion ideas.

    Endwalker alone had two full expansion-worthy stories mashed together into one. Which, for me, ended up feeling lackluster. They tried to connect them in, let’s put it kindly, creative ways, and then they crammed a third storyline about the 13th into the patches, instead of giving it the space it deserved.

    Now, with Dawntrail, it seems like they had enough ideas for two expansions again, one about Tural and another about the 9th Reflection, but they mashed them together once more. At least this time, they seem to have slowed down a bit and haven’t introduced a third post patch storyline to wrap up in a rush.

    I just hope 8.0 has more breathing room. Say what you want about Stormblood, but I actually enjoyed it and the lore it added. It introduced new cultures in a way that, honestly, Dawntrail just didn’t manage to pull off as well.

    Maybe we could get something like Stormblood again, but without a sidekick this time? Or at least someone on Hien’s level.
    Damn, I loved that guy.


    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
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    Unless Sharlayan is deliberately restricting teleportation of goods to control the spread of technology and population, or maybe nobody can afford the teleportation taxes.
    After all, in-game teleportation fees are literally a tax to Sharlayan for using their service. So, who’s to say they aren’t doing the same on a global scale?
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