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  1. #1
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    In theory, yes, practically, it tells me you never did the fight, yet you comment.

    So let me explain. Aside from the big damage that the initial hit was doing, the person tasked with breaking the webs would also get a heavy dot. Unless you had a healer on the DPS platform, the likelihood of them dying was pretty high (even with mits), especially early in the tier when you did not have BiS nor echo.

    On top of it, the entire fight was a healer check.
    If strats were about sometimes getting roles split between the two platforms due to role stacks, stacks would not kill you. Healers could preshield the party. Support could pre mitigate. Healers could heal everybody once they were back mid as well, since nothing was literally going over HP threshold until then. Those mechanics were primarily body checks before anything, like most mechanics in this fight except HH. Alternatively platforms could also be made all light party based (see hector) if one really needed anyway. I'd actually kill to have funky arena layouts again where it's not just about a 8 man stack to heal and mitigate for once. I do miss Alex 4 or Alex 12 for this for example.
    This puts the finger right where my problem is with the current mentality. People would rather complain that it's too hard than using the actual battle tools they have at their disposal. They're rather have SE water down the battle system even more because they can't deal with that, and instead have difficulty as a result get shoved even more dramatically into body checks, which P10S, shocking, was infamous for. If PF struggles, it's probably not because of whatever is left of the battle system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    It's impossible to change somebody's made-up mind nor do I really care all that much. While you are clearly the best person in the universe who can do every single mechanic flawlessly and without a sweat, the reality was completely different in PF and with average people doing that fight. Even if you are that good, the fights are never designed for the 0.01% of people but for the average who also makes a lot of mistakes.

    PS: please join my re-clear parties. I am sick and tired to re-prog every single damn week, M3s and m4s with ppl in pf that can't still do those stupid fights after so many damn months.
    Find a static where it doesn't happen? And if that's not a possibility, perhaps the problem you have is actually with the current battle design of those fights, where believe me, I'd be totally inclined to agree with here. DDR scripted dances suck for replayability and shelf life.
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    Last edited by Valence; 02-05-2025 at 11:22 PM.

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    Eraden's Avatar
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    Mao Xifeng
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    DDR scripted dances suck for replayability and shelf life.
    Mao quotes for TRUTH!
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