Re: Regarding the Use of Third-Party Programs and Player Safety

[ovIm]

So now you're requiring people to know how to get, install wireshark, and now modify wireshark with plugins and export and extract that data.
You act like requiring a massive amount more tech literacy is the same as a github repo where you plug it into the dalamud launcher and it installs and works instantly.

You are deliberately misunderstanding me right now. Most people using the plugin did not code it themselves either, or do you think they all compiled it from the github source? They grabbed the finished plugin and installed it.

It would need just one bad actor to code something like that for Wireshark and publish it, and as we have seen with this issue, there are people weird enough to do that.

No tech literacy is required from the general populace, just from a few coders with a desire to scrape the data.

You are so blind to the general issue that you suggest to make the program FFXIV worse for everyone in an attempt to fix a problem that cannot be fixed with the solution you propose.

[VerdeLuck]

You are deliberately misunderstanding me right now. Most people using the plugin did not code it themselves either, or do you think they all compiled it from the github source? They grabbed the finished plugin and installed it.

It would need just one bad actor to code something like that for Wireshark and publish it, and as we have seen with this issue, there are people weird enough to do that.

No tech literacy is required from the general populace, just from a few coders with a desire to scrape the data.

You are so blind to the general issue that you suggest to make the program FFXIV worse for everyone in an attempt to fix a problem that cannot be fixed with the solution you propose.

I'm not misunderstanding anything, you break the plugin and it makes it 100x more complicated to install and use, which limits the userbase and the damage. You cannot 100% solve the issue of bad actors but basic security on the files and packets for your game through an anticheat is the basic step to getting to something that's not just wide open.
FFXIV isn't any worse for anyone but cheaters if you put in an anticheat and honestly I have no sympathy for botters, cheaters, or people who mod to do things like ahrass other players. They can leave for all I care.

[Sarevok_Thordin]

I'm not misunderstanding anything, you break the plugin and it makes it 100x more complicated to install and use, which limits the userbase and the damage. You cannot 100% solve the issue of bad actors but basic security on the files and packets for your game through an anticheat is the basic step to getting to something that's not just wide open.
FFXIV isn't any worse for anyone but cheaters if you put in an anticheat and honestly I have no sympathy for botters, cheaters, or people who mod to do things like ahrass other players. They can leave for all I care.

For starters, Linux could break with a ring lvl 0 anti cheat......and that's even before we even get into the problems of having kernel level anticheat in the first place. I know Riot caused a bit of an issue on League with vanguard causing boot loops.

[BigCheez]

For starters, Linux could break with a ring lvl 0 anti cheat.

The game doesn't support Linux.