8.0 rework will be a joke

[Purrnauskis]

It will be a joke as long as we have grandpa-tier 2.5 GCD

[NaoSen]

I am tired of seeing damage meters and potency tweaks, re-work it so that on a target dummy damage be similar on a per role basis, (Group Phys ranged, Caster and melee into just DPS) but be drastically different on if other jobs are on it.
Damage downs, vulns, status effects, slows, let all these things be piled onto the boss by players and together be the total damage. Not to looseness of other MMO's but in a way which makes meters mean next to nothing and job variety everything.

[Vintersol]

Less impact on how jobs are balanced because of a particular environment (e.g. raids). Dancer for example has crap dps, because he can support others and has no cast times which doesn't matter when i play solo stuff.

[NaoSen]

Less impact on how jobs are balanced because of a particular environment (e.g. raids). Dancer for example has crap dps, because he can support others and has no cast times which doesn't matter when i play solo stuff.

I liked the concept of dancer but then I realised that unless I was buffing people who knew their job well, in addition to it being a high dps job to even break even with melee, picto or blm I stopped playing it.

[Hanayumi]

Nah dont think theyll do much of a rework for jobs, more likely they'll continue to condense/ease job game play but add something else on top instead, trees, augmentation, who knows. Why would they, its prolly easier than going through all the jobs and actually fixing them.

[Chasingstars]

1. Whatever changes to Bard
2. Whatever changes to Summoner
3. Level 90 to 100 of Blue Mage
3. Whatever the new job will be, probably some ranged physical if there is only one new job.

That is all I look forward to level 8.0 for new additions and reworks.

[TheGrimace]

They're kicking the can down the street now, seeing how long we'll pay before we all subscribe from boredom.

[TheGrimace]

They're kicking the can down the street now, seeing how long we'll pay before we all subscribe from boredom.

Unsubscribe. Man, how is the mobile version of this forum so bad that I can't edit posts? The forum is another relic of 2008 tech.

[Jeeqbit]

Unsubscribe. Man, how is the mobile version of this forum so bad that I can't edit posts? The forum is another relic of 2008 tech.

It's worse. It's not 2008 tech. It's 2000-2004 tech. But every single company almost used it because it was seen as the "premier" forum software for some reason. To be fair, it's always had a lot of features and extensions, but so have all the open source ones. I suppose it was because of companies not trusting free/open source stuff back then.

There wasn't as much reason to use it when this game released. It's likely due to them already having it for FF11 and it's easier to use what you're familiar with.

[Dzian]

In order to fix jobs they first need to fix content.

when content is as simple and straightforward as it is there really isnt anywhere for jobs to go. even if they add skill trees they can't go anywhere.

the content at the minute is dubed down and siplified so much there are absolutely ZERO systems and mechanics that jobs can work with or manipulate..

thee is no boss diversity. the only thing different between one boss and the next is how much HP they have.. they all have the same defence the same speed the same evasion. the same resistances.. a level 100 super boss takes the same damage from an attack as a level 1 bug. the only difference is HP.

To fix jobs they first need to fix content design. and put interesting and engaging systems in place that jobs can manipulate and work around.. give monsters varying stats and attributes instead of make them all the same. then you can have fast evasive mobs, slow hulky armored mobs. mobs that make be weak to blindness mobs that could be weighed down or imperrilled to certain elements.

bring back simple concepts like resource management and make those resources actually finate like tp and stuff and you can open the door for supportive jobs to help managae and maintain them. and open the door to actually decison based gameplay. this combo may do a lot more damage but it also cost alot more tp so if you use it to much you may end up starved. so then find a balance between spike damage and sustained damage. actual conscious decision making instead of mindess static rotations.

You cannot have engaging fun and interesting jobs. without engaging fun and interesting combat systems to play with and manipulate...

If they dont fix the content all a skill tree is going to be is:-
Path A leads to a x% damage buff on a 2 minute timer.
Path B leads to a x% crit buff on a 2 minute timer.
Path C leads to a x% direct hit buff on a 2 minute timer.

BORING!!!!!!