Quote Originally Posted by Stanelis View Post
The chaotic raid guide is like 30 minutes long. It's definitely not midcore content
30 minutes does not make something hard. Alliance Raids themselves can sometimes take that long, yet they are not regarded as hard.

The main thing even standing in the way of it being regarded as that is the tile phase due mostly to just a few mechanics which cause the majority of players not to be able to progress.
(especially with a 24 players requirement).
Normal alliance raids require 24 players. Delubrum Reginae, which was pretty good, also involved 24 players originally. Same with CLL. None of these were "impossibly difficult" for a casual player that doesn't normally play the game.

It's really just a few mechanics in the tile phase in chaotic that really grind people's progress to a halt.