Maybe it's time for a casual "strike" if not complete departure.

[Gurgeh]

I think your case is unique. In a different thread, you said you took off 2 weeks when DT launched and by week 4 (when Savage came out) you still weren't done with EX. If all you want to do is battle content, I'm not sure how after 4 weeks you were not ready if all you want to do is battle content.

Savage gear has nothing to do with crafting except for being able to meld and repair, and there are NPC's that can do that for you.

I'm not sure either. But I was playing a lot. Maybe, I just struggling with MSQ and I didn't realise it. Finding ways to flesh things out and mix things up. A couple of weeks for MSQ doesn't sound wrong though? You farm a few glams along the way. FATES, one crafter to 100. Then there are Normals to farn for a bit of gear. And Extreemes to prog. Its about a week per extreme.
I was not alone in taking that long. It was just the savage raiders who were done.
I still think you all must just crazy rushing things to be ready for savage in four weeks. Doing nothing that doesn't work towards savage, not playing with your sports etc.
Four weeks just seems nuts. I don't get it.

[Collin_Sky]

I'm not sure either. But I was playing a lot. Maybe, I just struggling with MSQ and I didn't realise it. Finding ways to flesh things out and mix things up. A couple of weeks for MSQ doesn't sound wrong though? You farm a few glams along the way. FATES, one crafter to 100. Then there are Normals to farn for a bit of gear. And Extreemes to prog. Its about a week per extreme.
I was not alone in taking that long. It was just the savage raiders who were done.
I still think you all must just crazy rushing things to be ready for savage in four weeks. Doing nothing that doesn't work towards savage, not playing with your sports etc.
Four weeks just seems nuts. I don't get it.

I work in a busy hospital, one of the largest trauma centres in my country, and I also have professional development quotas to meet alongside a very demanding work schedule. Despite this, I completed the MSQ within a week, cleared both extremes the following week, and had all my crafters and gatherers leveled the week after.

It's all about efficiency, and this does not mean skipping content, rather managing your time wisely. For example, farming normal raid gear is unnecessary since it becomes obsolete as soon as savage releases, which coincides with crafting gear being available. This crafting gear is what you'll use to progress in savage, and it can either be crafted or purchased. Personally, I spent my free time gathering materials I anticipated needing for the savage patch ahead of time, minimizing prep work once the patch launched.

It's entirely achievable, and I managed all this while maintaining a healthy work-life balance. It's less about rushing and more about being prepared and organized.

[Lilapop]

I work in a busy hospital, one of the largest trauma centres in my country, and I also have professional development quotas to meet alongside a very demanding work schedule. Despite this, I completed the MSQ within a week, cleared both extremes the following week, and had all my crafters and gatherers leveled the week after.

It's all about efficiency, and this does not mean skipping content, rather managing your time wisely. For example, farming normal raid gear is unnecessary since it becomes obsolete as soon as savage releases, which coincides with crafting gear being available. This crafting gear is what you'll use to progress in savage, and it can either be crafted or purchased. Personally, I spent my free time gathering materials I anticipated needing for the savage patch ahead of time, minimizing prep work once the patch launched.

It's entirely achievable, and I managed all this while maintaining a healthy work-life balance. It's less about rushing and more about being prepared and organized.

"I did this, so naturally everyone else who isn't me can do this too."

I'll use a tried and true method you like to use when an opposing viewpoint is offered! You have to be trolling now.

[Gurgeh]

"I did this, so naturally everyone else who isn't me can do this too."

I'll use a tried and true method you like to use when an opposing viewpoint is offered! You have to be trolling now.

Your point is... 'the' point.
But sadly it doesn't change the reality of the game. I had two weeks off work.
I went back and looked at the dedicated Gpose diary I kept if my DT adventure. It was wonderful. Poses at vistas. A new glam ever 3 MSQ levels. (side quests here and there, I still maintain not a lot) Lots of FATES organically (on foot still) to enjoy the zones.

I was still 'enjoying' MSQ on 20th July, including that 2 weeks off.
I still wouldn't want to do the next expansion differently either. I want to spend 2/3 weeks making the story and the new zones 'feel big', like an epic adventure.
Sadly though, I'm really bored of the casual battle content (such is barely 'playable' content it's so lacking in 'resistance')

So for me, this game can have no future. It's time for me to progress to end game, but how I play is not 'organised' and 'goal oriented' enough. And I absolutely do not want to 'organise' my gaming. It's not why I do any gaming.
I do think it's a shame. I'd only need 2/3 extra weeks, and this casual player might not need to ask for more casual content. Further more high end are going to have months and months of nothing by end expansion. So what's the hurry?
Oh well it's irrelevant.
I know it is fact, from outside these forums, that I am not alone, in it being the game's schedule that is the problem with high end. We were a casual group, that had been mentored by a high end group and came together over extremes, and the new expansion just split us up again, they were 'all' done with MSQ in about 3 days.

Now I think about it, I suggest it might be this schedule that is 'filtering' out players who are happy to do high end, but do not 'massively' 'enjoy' being goal oriented above all else. And so PF is full of the sort of people who abandon before a third pull.

However, I do recognise that does not at all mean that there are very many more than that handful of people I did know who are like minded.

[Lilapop]

Your point is... 'the' point.
But sadly it doesn't change the reality of the game. I had two weeks off work.
I went back and looked at the dedicated Gpose diary I kept if my DT adventure. It was wonderful. Poses at vistas. A new glam ever 3 MSQ levels. (side quests here and there, I still maintain not a lot) Lots of FATES organically (on foot still) to enjoy the zones.

I was still 'enjoying' MSQ on 20th July, including that 2 weeks off.
I still wouldn't want to do the next expansion differently either. I want to spend 2/3 weeks making the story and the new zones 'feel big', like an epic adventure.
Sadly though, I'm really bored of the casual battle content (such is barely 'playable' content it's so lacking in 'resistance')

So for me, this game can have no future. It's time for me to progress to end game, but how I play is not 'organised' and 'goal oriented' enough. And I absolutely do not want to 'organise' my gaming. It's not why I do any gaming.
I do think it's a shame. I'd only need 2/3 extra weeks, and this casual player might not need to ask for more casual content. Further more high end are going to have months and months of nothing by end expansion. So what's the hurry?
Oh well it's irrelevant.
I know it is fact, from outside these forums, that I am not alone, in it being the game's schedule that is the problem with high end. We were a casual group, that had been mentored by a high end group and came together over extremes, and the new expansion just split us up again, they were 'all' done with MSQ in about 3 days.

Now I think about it, I suggest it might be this schedule that is 'filtering' out players who are happy to do high end, but do not 'massively' 'enjoy' being goal oriented above all else. And so PF is full of the sort of people who abandon before a third pull.

However, I do recognise that does not at all mean that there are very many more than that handful of people I did know who are like minded.

imo, just play how you'd like to play. you don't have to organize your playtime to the extent others do, you're gonna find like-minded players eventually; there's more high-end content coming than casual content afaik, could be wrong though.

[ForteNightshade]

I'm not sure either. But I was playing a lot. Maybe, I just struggling with MSQ and I didn't realise it. Finding ways to flesh things out and mix things up. A couple of weeks for MSQ doesn't sound wrong though? You farm a few glams along the way. FATES, one crafter to 100. Then there are Normals to farn for a bit of gear. And Extreemes to prog. Its about a week per extreme.
I was not alone in taking that long. It was just the savage raiders who were done.
I still think you all must just crazy rushing things to be ready for savage in four weeks. Doing nothing that doesn't work towards savage, not playing with your sports etc.
Four weeks just seems nuts. I don't get it.

A week?! My guy, most people interested in doing EX have them down in a few hours, perhaps a day at most if they're particularly busy. Anyone taking a week is extremely (no pun intended) casual, which this content isn't designed for.

For Savage, the only real prep you're doing outside of week 1/HC groups is crafting gear. That takes a couple hours tops on the day of. Heck, I spent a full day gearing my whole static. Four weeks is nutty to me from the opposite perspective haha.

[Saraide]

I'm not sure either. But I was playing a lot. Maybe, I just struggling with MSQ and I didn't realise it. Finding ways to flesh things out and mix things up. A couple of weeks for MSQ doesn't sound wrong though? You farm a few glams along the way. FATES, one crafter to 100. Then there are Normals to farn for a bit of gear. And Extreemes to prog. Its about a week per extreme.
I was not alone in taking that long. It was just the savage raiders who were done.
I still think you all must just crazy rushing things to be ready for savage in four weeks. Doing nothing that doesn't work towards savage, not playing with your sports etc.
Four weeks just seems nuts. I don't get it.

Progging an ex trial for an entire week seems a bit long. It sounds like that's eating up much of your time. Usually that's done in a lockout or two.

[Gurgeh]

Progging an ex trial for an entire week seems a bit long. It sounds like that's eating up much of your time. Usually that's done in a lockout or two.

Perhaps if you are doing it when it comes out with all the savage players, but if you are doing it when I do it (late but still high end), then a group is typically only able to clear 2 to 3 new mechanics per lookout.
There are one of two people to bring up to speed in the first 10 - 20, then inconsistency hits, then you see and practice a new mech then another. (Possibly more depending)

Ex3 was consistently, working out meteors and you will see a bit of ice. No ilvl requirement and you see a 'lot' of average less than min +5. Learning ice and you might 'just' see P3.
'mostly got ice down' and yes you might then get though P3 in just part of a lockout.
But everyone has to get through meteors and ice and doing 'no guide needed' that's, at least 2 lockouts on just those two, by the time you've brought people up to speed here and there.
You can see they think they know the earlier mechanics, but there is a bit here and there they don't realise they are just fluking.
(I think there is a lot of [stupid] assumption that other people should know they don't know a phase, when actually they honestly think they do but have just fluked it)
Add a day for a PF where you make no progress because you're just helping people get consistent at a previous P they've probably just limping through before now.
Add another two for time for the bits before and after maybe a bit of trouble with DPS check or the enrage.
Well now we are up to five days.
Lose another 2 because no prog attempted because IRL and this casual.

I have to wonder if these 1 or 2 lockout clears are actually all guided, day 1 with studied Savage and ultimate raiders and their gear, people who bail and find another party if meteors isn't cleared 3rd pull for a bit of ice prog.

All of which is different because none of that is 'casual'.