The issue with Dawntrail and importance of 8.0

[Exmo]

so I'm not willing to get hard numbers for you on how many steam reviews and reddit posts there are in comparison to the active player count (something like 4k vs 1 million btw).

For fun I did a super quick check for steam reviews of FFXIV

DT = 4300 reviews, slightly less than half liked it (ie 2k)
EW = 1300 reviews, most liked it
ShB = 800 reviews, most liked it

Don't you think it's odd how the count for DT is three times more than that of EW? That's such a suspicious uptick.

The fact that DT has double the number of positive reviews as EW is also notable and funny, as if people go out of their way to counter negative reviews which go out of their way to counter positive reviews. This whole thing seems manufactured as sin. I don't know how anyone can look at the state of this and think it's organic.

[Clockworks]

For fun I did a super quick check for steam reviews of FFXIV

DT = 4300 reviews, slightly less than half liked it (ie 2k)
EW = 1300 reviews, most liked it
ShB = 800 reviews, most liked it

Don't you think it's odd how the count for DT is three times more than that of EW? That's such a suspicious uptick.

The fact that DT has double the number of positive reviews as EW is also notable and funny, as if people go out of their way to counter negative reviews which go out of their way to counter positive reviews. This whole thing seems manufactured as sin. I don't know how anyone can look at the state of this and think it's organic.

For fun I did a super quick check for steam population of FFXIV.

August 2021 : 40000 (Peak 65000)
December 2021 : 53700 (peak 95000)
January 2022 : 36614 (peak 65656)
January 2023 : 27140 (peak 48000)
July 2024 (DT) : 42000 (peak 77000)
January 2025 : 17229 (Peak 25783)

You're welcome.

[Exmo]

For fun I did a super quick check for steam population of FFXIV.

August 2021 : 40000 (Peak 65000)
December 2021 : 53700 (peak 95000)
January 2022 : 36614 (peak 65656)
January 2023 : 27140 (peak 48000)
July 2024 (DT) : 42000 (peak 77000)
January 2025 : 17229 (Peak 25783)

You're welcome.

What's that got to do with steam reviews? Come back with those goal posts!

Edit: this is an example of why I wouldn't bother pretending we can have a good faith conversation here. People just want to post their random asides, exhaust one another and act nasty. You can't actually have an intelligent conversation on this topic here. The air is poisonous.

[Clockworks]

What's that got to do with steam reviews? Come back with those goal posts!

Woosh the point right above your head

[NamiRocket]

For fun I did a super quick check for steam population of FFXIV.

August 2021 : 40000 (Peak 65000)
December 2021 : 53700 (peak 95000)
January 2022 : 36614 (peak 65656)
January 2023 : 27140 (peak 48000)
July 2024 (DT) : 42000 (peak 77000)
January 2025 : 17229 (Peak 25783)

You're welcome.

Posted without a hint of irony, as if Steam numbers matter for your argument.

[Clockworks]

Posted without a hint of irony, as if Steam numbers matter for your argument.

https://luckybancho.ldblog.jp/archives/58883226.html

Here you go, that's non steam.

My pleasure.

[Daralii]

https://luckybancho.ldblog.jp/archives/58883226.html

Here you go, that's non steam.

My pleasure.

It still doesn't count because it's not Yoshida saying it to them personally.

[BigCheez]

Posted without a hint of irony, as if Steam numbers matter for your argument.

Why? Steam is a plenty large enough sample size to gauge player behaviour.

Looking at Steam numbers won't tell you how many total players there are but it will give a pretty accurate estimation of % changes over time.

[Supersnow845]

For fun I did a super quick check for steam reviews of FFXIV

DT = 4300 reviews, slightly less than half liked it (ie 2k)
EW = 1300 reviews, most liked it
ShB = 800 reviews, most liked it

Don't you think it's odd how the count for DT is three times more than that of EW? That's such a suspicious uptick.

The fact that DT has double the number of positive reviews as EW is also notable and funny, as if people go out of their way to counter negative reviews which go out of their way to counter positive reviews. This whole thing seems manufactured as sin. I don't know how anyone can look at the state of this and think it's organic.

So your logic is

EW=2000 good reviews DT=2000 good reviews and 2000 fake bad reviews because it has more reviews

Well that’s certainly logic, I wouldn’t say it’s good logic but it’s something

[Exmo]

So your logic is

EW=2000 good reviews DT=2000 good reviews and 2000 fake bad reviews because it has more reviews

Well that’s certainly logic, I wouldn’t say it’s good logic but it’s something

That's not remotely what I said but thank you for trying, I appreciate the effort.