We are missing Content between Normal and Extreme. Wrong Audience for Chaotic

[AllenThyl]

First of all Allen, your kind of a legend, and your so indiscriminate with your judgments that the biggest offense would be being found unworthy of having you descend to correct our thinking.

You accused everyone who was able to craft practically anything of cheating / using ToS violating 3rd party addons, including just using a macro. Your "thinking" doesn't justify just outright making up falsehoods. It's not a difference of "opinion" when talking about verifiable facts, and this is a synthetic game, which follows programming logic implemented by humans.

That said, I do think you are being entirely serious above. But I also really think that being consistent probably comes easy to you, and that you don't understand the degree to which other people will always make mistakes in a way that you just outside of understanding of the differences between people? I think if everyone actually kept themselves out of kill parties in the way you say they should, that there would be some people (like me) that effectively banned from kill parties for life. It might even be that you'd answer "well maybe then? Yes?" But that's not practical. I'm quite confident that no matter how slow the boss is at telegraphing, that I will always be capable of suddenly getting distracted, or having a 'moment' and screwing up. I could believe that they way you are put together, that just can't happen.
But it is totally impractical to expect people to keep themselves out of kill parties, once they've cleared, and once they've got about as good as they think they can get.
Take Chaotic dooms. When I get tired, and I'm not always aware of when that is, my memory goes. It becomes impossible for me to tell if the hand I'm remembering a few seconds later is the hand from this pull or the previous one. I'm not sure if that is going to get better as I play more. And its not something I am aware of. A memory is a memory, correct or incorrect.

I've said it in this forum before, some people have what it takes to become a fighter pilot that can fly sortie in a warzone for 8 hours and then land back on an aircraft carrier in a storm, while other people will keep denting their hatchback run-around in the supermarket carpark their entire lives.

Or as I put it:

This raid exposes a few problematic behaviors that the community at large has simply normalized, but shouldn't have.

If you find 23 other people who are fine with you messing up again and again, good for you. Everyone was in agreement about that, and you are all adults, you can all do what you want together. If you join a kill party of strangers while being the person who consistently messes up but expects everyone else to "just deal with it" as if you aren't replaceable at short notice, you are simply entitled and selfish. You expect others to do more of the work, than you yourself are willing of providing. That's what "progging" means. Not just reaching a point, but acquiring the skills necessary to reach this point consistently.